L-1011-500 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 368 posts, RR: 2 Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
Hello all -
I know that in early 2001, Aerolineas Argentinas (AR) suspended service to LAX, no doubt due to their financial problems that were rampant at the time. Now that they have been seemingly resuscitated and are flying to JFK and MIA as well as within Europe again, when will LAX be added onto the route map again?
Jgore From Argentina, joined Feb 2002, 550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2736 times:
I don't certainly know.
As far as i know, Aerolineas Argentinas is recovering from its finantial problems, and they just opened up a hub in spain to serve europe's comuter flights.
Based on this recent step they did in europe, i might think that they will return to lax shortly. Don't get me wrong , i'm not sure.
If you want, ask 747SKIPPER, he's a 747 Captain from Aerolineas Argentinas. May be he has further details.
United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9272 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2725 times:
Based on what they did in Europe, I think they MIGHT return to LAX shortly. There is a market. But whether or not it is the right time for them to return to LAX is another issue. They are still recovering from their Financial Problems.
Argento From Argentina, joined Feb 2000, 230 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
I do not have any notice here in Buenos Aires.
For many years the route was EZE-LIM-MEX-LAX with the only Aerolineas 747-SP,back in the 80s.
In late 90s the route was non-stop with the A340-200.
I think it is not the first stop to reopen,but it is an excellent west coast destination and Asian connection.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33613 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2639 times:
Aerolineas Argentinas cannot add service to the US now that they are a category II country. This has put daily service to JFK and MIA, which was to begin in two weeks, on hold. It has also put on hold M80 service from Miami to points in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Canada, as well as plans to return to LAX. Because they fly wet-leased 767-300ERs from Air Atlanta, Southern Winds can add US service, as they did last week with the launch of COR-EZE-MIA. However, thier two 763s are busy flying to Miami and, starting next week, Madrid. They need more planes before they go on with expansion plans, which include Cordoba-Miami/Madrid, as well as Buenos Aires-LAX/JFK. And of course, before any of that, they need to hope thier recently launched MIA and soon-to-be-launched MAD service does well.
Jj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2625 times:
I never understood why we were put in Cat 2. It was more than a safety measure, a political one.
However, the FAA recently evaluated Aerolinea's maintenance hangars in EZE, and approved them to do up to D checks if I'm not mistaken. So why shouldn't they allow AR to fly to LAX, when they're sure the maintenance is good? Interestingly, AR has just added another frequency to JFK!
Who understands this?.... I hope we do return to LAX sooner than later.
LatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2746 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
Lan Chile has taken away the market AR left open after they left LAX. AR had flown here since the early 80s (or late70s?) flying in pretty much all of the Argentinian and Peruvian community that now resides in California. The brief resumption of AR's services into LAX between 2000-2001, was not very popular and registered low load-factors due to competition from LAN, which offered better service, daily schedules, and a consistent product (even if it meant an extra stop in SCL).
In my opinion, (and if there is a way out of Category ll for Argentina) AR might want to restart services to LAX flying their old EZE-LIM-MEX-LAX route. Although it's a route with many stops, it would compare with LAN's: LAX-LIM-SCL (stransfer of plane) SCL-EZE. AR would benefit from 5th freedom rights to/from Peru, as those are not hard to get, and add MEX to its route network. The only problem would be trying to get 5th freedom rights on the LAX-MEX sector, which are not so easy to get.