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Who Will Take NWA's DC-9 When Retired?  
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1970 times:

Hello all!

I would like who will buy NWA's DC-9's when they start retiring them.

Thanks!

-Dmitry

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Joe's Scrap Shack.

Seriously.

They'll all be over 100,000 cycles. No one will want them but the scrap man.

Randall


User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

You'll drink beer out of them!!


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User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

So they wil be out and gone. Oh well there time is near.

-Dmitry


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

I'll buy one.. YEah.. I'll give them $1000 for the best one they have Big grin

Sadly, they will prolly be scrap, unless some small-time wants to refit as cargo..


Chris



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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

If Tower Air would still have been alive today, I bet that they would have bought all of them.

Maybe some African airline would buy a few.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

Alcoa can't wait.....

User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

I think some cargo airline still could get a lot of use out of them.

-Dmitry


User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

At the current time NW is trying to get an inspection program approved by the FAA which will allow them to operate the DC-9 until 2025. Although there is no limit on the number of cycles on an airframe, the FAA seems reluctant to approve the plan which in 2025 would make there oldest DC-9 66 years old.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

Interesting, Jetskipper. I would imagine, also, that some of these D9S' would be donated to museums around the United States and/or flight schools.

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Regardless of when it happens, I think the largest purchaser of NW's DC-9's will be none other than Budweiser  Smile

Steve


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

AirTran, of course.  Yeah sure

redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

I don't think AirTran would take them. Way to old for passengers.

-Dmitry


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1775 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Maybe Aerocalifornia?......they only operate DC-9 and theirs are very very old.


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User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

We will be parking 13-15 dc-9s next month........


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User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

At the current time NW is trying to get an inspection program approved by the FAA which will allow them to operate the DC-9 until 2025. Although there is no limit on the number of cycles on an airframe, the FAA seems reluctant to approve the plan which in 2025 would make there oldest DC-9 66 years old.

I don't see this happening. Even with hushkits, I doubt they can reach Stage 4 compliance. 2010 might be more realistic.



Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
User currently offlineE7plnr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Favre?
What is the latest with the 13-15 DC-9's next month?
I heard the there was a a/c allocation meeting this week-but have been off work.
Any decision on 6613? I heard it might soon be on the chopping block to.


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6277 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1499 times:

No indeed to most of the posts above. (Time for nitpicking)
The DC-9s will never show up on your grocer's shelf with your faveorite beverage inside.
Freight carriers (read as ABX) like aircraft with cycles about half of useful.
Aerocalifornia has great DC-9s, I've worked on them. They may be old in years but are young in life.

No, I'm afraid that the NW DC-9s will all end up in museums or used as parts for the car you buy in 2003 and beyond.



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Thanks for your imput guys!

-Dmitry


User currently offline9844 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

If u took a look at their (NWA DC-9) out of service record, its appalling. There time has come.. Get rid of them...

User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

9844: Is it anything wrong with NWA dc9's service record?


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User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

I think those 9's have flown many years without any problems at all!

-Dmitry


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

AirTran, of course.

 Yeah sure Hi there, Yeah in response to your statement, I would like to point out that AirTran is in the middle of recieving BRAND NEW 717s and they are retiring their current DC9s. Why on earth would they want more DC9s or have you not been paying attention to AirTran since 1998. If that is the case, let us know and TRAVATL, and I will fill you in on how safe and reliable AirTran is, and how they have REALLY Improved 100%.


User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

9844:

The NW DC9 fleet has a better dispatch and reliablility rate than the AirTran 717 fleet.

Can you please show me the figures and the source for your statement that their out of service record?

It seems to me that people don't like the DC9's because they are operated by NW and they are old. Perhaps if people could look past their blatant hatred for anything NW and mistrust of anything old, no matter how well maintained they would realize that those airplanes are not as bad as they think.

I fly them all the time, and I would much rather be on an NW DC9 than several other carriers 'newer' planes.



Climbing
User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

I do not have a problem with NWA, But their DC9s are O L D no matter how well they are maintained. It is time to go. Hawaiian has already retired their -50s in favor of the 717, and NWA still has the second oldest DC9 built. Look at how much Hawaiian has saved on costs since aquiring the 717. They have saved a bunch of money. The NW DC9s may be paid for, but they will save money with the 717s in the long run. Those DC9s are too old, and have to be maintained alot which costs extra money. The Dispatch Reliability on the 717 is inherent in any new plane. There are still a few bugs to be worked out like the APU Problems. (Causing most of the delays). Do you remember when the 717 first came out, the engines were causing problems. Now that those are fixed, they have to fix the APU problems and voila. So I would rather fly on a 717 than a DC9, because the DC9 is old, smelly, and LOUDDDDDDDDDDDDD. The 717 is New, 100% Fresh Air, and QUIIIIEEEEEEETTTTT. You do the math, Passenger comfort, and safety comes to mind at AirTran while at NWA, MONEY comes to mind.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

I'll buy one.. YEah.. I'll give them $1000 for the best one they have

$1,000, NAHHHHHHH  Big thumbs up Try $600. That comes WITH the cockpit  Smile


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