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WN To ATL Ever?  
User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Will Southwest ever consider flying to ATL? It seems that they could get plenty of service and good loads out of ATL.

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Southwest avoids congested airports.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

No!! They can't do that as for ATL flight and it is too busiest hubs like Delta & AirTran too. And that is cause will alot of the flight delay and It was already hear that as for the before!!! I knew that one as from (Fly732) Ryan were work at AirTran Airways and that exactly he will tell you something about into ATL airport. Well, hope this is your helps. Thanks!!

User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Atlanta is too crowded for Southwest. Plus, they would be competing against well established low-fare carrier Air Tran, and Delta for that matter. WN seems to avoid airports where there is already a well established low fare carrier.

User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Seems to me BarneyPilot or another good source mentioned Macon, GA as a possibility in another thread. They'l never go to ATL, but they may go to Macon or some other field near enough to draw Atlanta traffic. They are already getting some from Nashville, as I understand it.

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

They are well established in Birmingham, Alabama .. a couple of hours drive from ATL. A lot of people drive there from ATL to save a few hundred bucks ..
Macon? Heh ... sounds interesting, but I doubt it ..




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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

To quote Herb Kelleher, "It will be a cold day in Hell before we start service to Atlanta!" That doesn't neccessarily mean you will never see a Southwest plane in ATL. When Atlanta hosted the Super Bowl in 2000, there was in fact a Southwest Airlines charter flight that went out of Concourse D. It was either a flight for the NFL bigwigs or for the ESPN folks. As for WN entering the state of GA, MCN is a thought, close enough to be a thorn in the side of Delta, yet far enough away to not start a fare war with. Macon has not had mainline service since deregulation if memory serves me. The best cities for Southwest to start flights to in Georgia are SAV and AGS. Savannah is close enough to several tourist destinations (Hilton Head & Jekyll Island) to warrant bringing a little LUV to the area, and considering that the only other low-fare service out of SAV is FL to ATL, they could do well there. Augusta could benefit because they currently have not mainline airline service, and Delta pulled out two years ago and replaced service by way of DCI. The last low-fare carrier to serve AGS was Valujet, and that was about 5 years or so ago. Southwest has tried in the past to enter the Atlanta market by way of one of the g.a. airports in town. They tried in the early 90s to start service out of FTY and later out of PDK, but the NIMBYS rebuffed any such attempt to bring some LUV to the ATL. When a second Atlanta airport is built, we may see Southwest finally enter the Atlanta market.

User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3857 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

srbmod posted:

The best cities for Southwest to start flights to in Georgia are SAV and AGS. Savannah is close enough to several tourist destinations (Hilton Head & Jekyll Island) to warrant bringing a little LUV to the area, and considering that the only other low-fare service out of SAV is FL to ATL, they could do well there.

Ordinarily, I would disagree with you, simply because JAX is only a two hour drive from SAV. However, from what I've read, Southwest is gate constrained at JAX. They only have 2 gates and I think the prospects of them getting any more anytime soon is slim to none.

Back in January of this year, Southwest celebrated its fifth year in JAX and these sttistics were included in the press release:

During the last five years Southwest has grown to capture more than 17 percent of the Jacksonville market share.

Before Southwest started service to Jacksonville, there were 259,880 passengers carried to cities served by Southwest. As of second quarter 2001, there were 610,990 passengers carried, an increase of 135.10 percent.

Before Southwest started service to Jacksonville, the average fare paid was $144. As of second quarter 2001 the average fare paid was $113, a decrease of 21.53 percent.

During 2001 Southwest transported more than 870,000 Customers in Jacksonville.

To have a 17% of the market share using only two gates and 22 daily departures is pretty impressive, IMO. It makes me think that if they could get their hands on more gates in JAX, they'd add flights in a heartbeat. I wonder how many JAX passengers actually live in/near SAV. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Southwest go into SAV because of the gate shortage in JAX, just like they went into PBI because at the time, they weren't able to get any more gates in FLL. I'm not sure what the gate situation is at SAV. Does anyone know if there are any that are currently vacant?

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5822 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Mike,

I haven't been to SAV in a couple of years. There may be 1 gate available but I'm not sure that there are 2 available. From the graph on the airport website I can't tell how many DL is occupying.
http://www.savannahairport.com/upperlevel.php



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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

Actually most Atlanta travelers who fly Southwest, do the 2.5 hour drive to Birmingham, Nashville is a 4 hour drive. I dont think that AGS is a proper city for Southwest to serve because of its very low population and it is a very poor city--and it is at least a 2.5 hour drive from Atlanta. Macon is a 2 hour drive from Atlanta, 2.5 hours from the northern suburbs (where most frequent travelers live) but once again, dont count on much traffic from the local residents--it is a lower-class town. SAV on the other hand would be a pretty good place for service from WN, being close to the beaches and CHS. Also its residents are affluent compared to most cities in Georgia, and many of them travel often. I could definitely see WN starting service to SAV.


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