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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

I just heard on the morning news here in Seattle the senate will be meeting next week to look at building new alternative airport in Seattle. It did not say where the airport is being considered or how big it will be. They did say the new airport will work with Sea-Tac International airport.

The senate is looking at the new airport idea because the third runway at Sea-Tac is taking too long and it looks like the planned new international terminal is pretty much dropped by the port of Seattle.

I think this is a good idea but I don't see where the airport would be built in Seattle. I hope if the new airport is built it will allow more international airlines at Sea-Tac and more domestic flights into the new airport if built.

Also does anybody know what happened to making Paine Field in Everett a alternative airport about 10 years ago?

Where do you think is a good place in the Seattle are for a new airport?
I only have two places. Between Olympia and Tacoma and between Everett and Bellingham.

It would be cool to see a man-made island made in Puget Sound and make it a airport just like Hong Kong and Osaka!  Smile That would be a dream come true.

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User currently offlineMDCJets From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Very interesting. I fly to Seattle every year, and this seems logical as SeaTac is basically the only major passenger airport in the Northwest. A new airport would allow further airline growth, as well as decrease congestion at Sea-Tac. Cost is a different issue though.

User currently offline777d From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

Building a new airport in the Seattle area would be a difficult task. When you build such a facility, there is more than just building an airport. There must be new roads built and also increase of population in the area of the new airport, which requires more infrastructure to be created for the new businesses and population.

I am not sure where would be the ideal place to build an airport. I am against the third runway they are attmepting to build at SEATAC. By the way, the Port of Seattle has purchased houses and cleared them out for the third runway, but I have not heard if they have stopped the construction of the runway.

Building a new airport in the Puget Sound would have such a debate that it would delay it for years.

SEA does has little to no space surrounding the airport. Expanding the airport would certainly lead to civic leaders dividing the communities nearby into factions supporting the airport or being against the airport.

Perhaps Boeing field in Seattle? High speed train to SEA?

Perhaps airlines flying larger aircraft and adjusting schedules would ease the congestion?






User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Building a new airport anywhere also requires numerous plans, reports, studies, etc, etc with public and governmental input. Therein lies the probable rub.....would such a project be very high on the FAA's list of funding priorities? I would doubt it. The two reasons listed above (slow construction of 3rd rwy, SEA not wanting to build int'l building) are not sufficient reasons in and of themselves.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



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User currently offlineLonghaul747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

I read this in the Seattle P.I. this morning. I agree that we need a second airport to relieve some of the congestion at SEA. Especially minor and regional flights. The 3rd runway is also turning into a major joke of a pork barrel project I have ever seen. I could be wrong but last I heard they had to do a 5 year environmental study or something like that.

I can't see anyplace in the Seattle area an airport could be built realistically. It would take to long and cost millions. I am all for using Paine Field in Everett for a second airport or McChord in Tacoma. Paine Field might make a better choice because it is non military and close to some railroad tracks for a high speed train between the two airports. This idea came up about 5 years ago and got shut down.


User currently offlineFrequentflier From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Boeing Field has got to be way too small for a commercial airport. Besides, its already crowded.

I really like the idea of putting an airport in Everett, though. That might work.

Wouldn't it be next to impossible to put an airport in Puget Sound for the same reasons that they probably should not have put an airport off the coast of Osaka in Japan (Kansai does look like a very nice airport though)?


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

While Paine field is the only existing location able to handle any significant increase in air traffic, it really doesn't make sense. I don't have the figures, but I'm pretty sure there are more people living in the area from Seattle to Centralia/Chehalis than there are from Seattle to Bellingham. Also, the city of Everett put some pretty harsh restrictions on Boeing when they built the Everett facility, with the intention of keeping the traffic way down. I don't know how keen they would be on a extra couple million people driving into the airport.

That being said, and like everyone else has mentioned, we don't have a lot of options in this area. McChord is too small to handle any civil aviation, and the military isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Boeing field is also too small, and as anyone who drives the I-5 corridor knows, the last thing we need is more traffic around Boeing field. My suggestion/guess as to a likely place would be to the east, or even possibly somewhere on the southern part of the Olympic peninsula. No matter where its suggested, the legal battles and environmental issues are going to make the 3rd runway debate look like a love fest!

Duane



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

I remember a few years back Horizon Air was going to start flights from Paine Feild to Portland and Spokane for Boeing executives.

User currently offlineJetBlueRules From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

I would be thrilled if Paine Field was converted to commercial services. Living 15 miles away in Marysville, it would make my life so much easier than driving for 45 minutes minimum to SeaTac. If Paine isn't converted, all I hope is that the new airport is north of Seattle instead of another further south of SeaTac. Although, I don't really see anywhere that has room along the I-5 corridor, and Bellingham already has a small commercial airport served by Horizon and United Express.

~Brett Big thumbs up


User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

What would be weird if Boeing DID leave Seattle we would have three airports in the area that would be good enough to be a new commercial airport especially Paine Field.



User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Not sure if that'll fly, especially with all of the NW environmentalists up there. With how they plan streets/freeways in Seattle, without a doubt their new airport would only have a two lane road leading to it!

Seriously, though, we've been over this so many times for so many years--starting in '92 when I first moved there up until I left in '97. We went to several anti-airport meetings in the later years...it's just a big fiasco. There's no way.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Last crazy idea I heard was this:

Building a massive Denver sized airport in the Centralia area that would serve both the Seattle and Portland metro areas. Connect both cities with new mag-lev high speed trains.

Sort of like the Moses Lake airport idea, just alot cheaper!!

Who knows!!

So is the north terminal not going to be built at Sea-Tac? How about the new ground transportation terminal?



You mad Bro???
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1181 times:

Finally! They sure need more space!

-Dmitry


User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

Paine Field makes the most sense to virtually everybody but the politicians in Snohomish County, who wilt under a few loud mouthed NIMBY's that insist that they were "promised" that it would never be used as a commercial airport (like politicians ever keep their promises, anyway). Never mind that it has all the Boeing widebodies operating there, as well as frequent FedEx, UPS, and other planes going to the Goodrich maintenance facilities. How anyone could worry about a dozen commercial flights with nothing bigger than a 737, and more likely regional-jet size equipment added to that escapes me. Yes, there would need to be a terminal built, but there is room in the southwest corner of the property, and much of the surrounding roadways have already seen improvement to handle other growth in the area.


"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

"SeaTac is basically the only major passenger airport in the Northwest"

Um have you ever heard of PDX?

And both city's do not have the infustructure for mag lev!


User currently offlineAirnondo From Moldova, joined May 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Speaking of PDX, anyone heard about reinstatment of services to Tokyo or Asia in general?

User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Mag lev, huh? Hey that sounds cool, they can build it right after they finish the light rail in 2006, or was that 07, no it must have been 08, 09, 2010????  Big grin

Seriously, while a mega-regional airport might make some sense, I seriously doubt Portland, Seattle or Tacoma (note they are in alphabetical order, I'm not picking on or showing any preference here!) would be willing to swallow their collective civic pride and give up 'their' airports. It took congress to make Dallas and Ft. Worth play nice, and they are only 30 miles apart, not 120!

Realistically, I see the 3rd runway (eventually) getting finished, some moderate additional ground facilities being built, and a 15-25 year debate about what we do next. In other words, same old, same old......

Rgds
Duane



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2530 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1061 times:

The three areas under consideration in Seattle are the same three they were looking at several years ago. There are two up north, one near Marysville, and the other near Arlington. The third is is Pierce County just east of Ft. Lewis. The biggest problem is that in the last ten years since they were first looked at, there's been a lot of development nearby, making any one of them much harder to turn into an airport. Another problem still remains if the new airport is used just for smaller aircraft - who would use it? It'd be hard to make connections anywhere if only a handful of regional flights go to a new airport, and that wouldn't take much pressure off of Sea-Tac. What's needed is a new full scale airport, but deciding where to place it will be a nightmare.

BTW, There isn't enough flat land anywhere near Chehalis to put a Mega-airport.

HAL



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User currently offlineNightcruiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1056 times:

A new airport in Seattle would be good to support all the continental and trans-pacific traffic that go to that beautiful city.

User currently offlineAer777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

We will be flying in space ships before Seattle gets a light rail.



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