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User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

Hey all,
I'm designing an airport (for the fun of it) and had a question about what process(es) the baggage goes through from check-in time to ending up at the gate. Are the baggage at the check-in counters all consolidated to one conveyer that all airlines share up to the when they are loaded to baggage carts? Or, does each airline have their own conveyer to the baggage carts?
Thanks. Any info would be much appreciated.
Have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
PL

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User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

Well, I think it all depends on the airport we're talking about. Although the basic system may be the same (more or less) there can be huge differences I think.

Anyway, over here in Brussels-National, the basic system is the following:

All pieces roll onto one big conveyor belt. Each piece of luggage is put on a different plate by computer. Somewhere there is some sort of electric scanning device, that reads the barcode. This way, the computer system knows where to tilt the plate (for example let's say at post 45).

So, when this particular piece of luggage reaches post 45, the plate tilts and 'pushes' the piece of luggage into a spiral cascade. A couple of meters below, the pice comes to a stop, the luggage handler picks up the bag and stops it either into a trolley (whenever the aircraft that will be used can't handle containers, e.g. B737, ARJ, ERJ, CRJ) or picks it up and puts into a container.

for long-haul flights, the old system is still being used (at least it still was last year): you have a bunch of carrousels (just like at the baggage claim area) where pieces of luggage fall onto via a conveyor belt system. Now, every carrousel has more than one destination. So, basically, it is the handler's responsibility to make sure all pieces for dest. A get into the trolley or container for dest. A, all pieces for dest. B into the trolley or container for dest. B, etc...

So, where the new system separates the pieces automatically, the old system still needs the baggage handler to separate the bags.

Hope this helps.

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4638 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

At least here in YYC, airlines have their own carousels. The bag goes from the ticket counter to a carousel in the bagroom via the conveyor. Bagroom staff for that airline will then sort the bags onto carts for each flight. The driver of the crew that does a certain flight will come and pick up the carts of bags for his/her flight and take them to the plane to be loaded.

As for the offload, basically the driver takes the carts to the carousel that the passengers will be picking up their bags from. He then off loads the bags on the carousel (pretty obvious how this works), and the passengers pick up their bags and live happily ever after.

The End

Kris  Smile



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User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

Thanks you all. That was a lot of help. That computer system sounds very fascinating. Does anybody know how airports with the check-in counters around 3rd or 4th level work? (such as the round terminal at CDG-I think) Does the baggage go down one of those spiral cascades that Apuneger mentioned all the way down to the bottom level? Or do they use several conveyers in a zig-zag form down to the bottom?

Thanks again.
Have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
PL


User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

I forgot to ask one more thing. Should I allow a lot of space for scanners, x-ray machines, etc?

Have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
PL


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Planelover:

The spiral cascades don't start at the departure level. For example, the luggage is put on a conveyor belt at the check-in desk, and then it is brought to the level of the baggage handling compartment at the airport. So, the bags are taken down just with a tilted conveyor belt over here (you know, the belt just goes down instead of keeping the same level).

So, the conveyor belt system brings the bags to the handling hall, where the bags begin their journey to the right spiral cascade. The cascade makes sure that the bags don't fall with great speed, the turnings helps to keeping the speed of the bags pretty low (and, of course, every now and then, a bag gets stuck, which isn't funny when other bags for the same flight are behind it...).

By the way, have you ever seen Toy Story 2? You might check out that one, it gives you a good indication of the conveyor belt system in an airport  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlinePlanelover From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Thanks for your posts Apuneger. I understand what you are saying about the spiral cascades over there at Brussels. I was wondering whether or not CDG uses the cascade system to get their baggage from the departure level down to the ground level. I guess I should have made myself more clear.

Yes, I have seen Toy Story 2. I don't recall anything about an airport in it though. I guess I'll check it out again.

Does anybody know how the system at CDG works? (in the round terminal-can't remember which one that is. I believe it has a parking lot on the upper levels, which doesn't make much sense to me.)

Well, thanks again.
Have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
PL


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Planelover:

No problem! By the way, the part I was referring to in Toy Story 2 comes at the end. If I'm correct, the caracters end up in some sort of chase in the baggage conveyor belt hall... Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

I once visted this department years ago (don't remember the what terminal)
The system is quite similar as in bru. When a bag is processed at checkin, the agent pushes a button to let the sytem know on what flight the bag must go. The bags are lowered with a kind of elevator and get on a large caroussel. When the bags get at their allocated spot, an 'arm' kicks off the bag (iso the plate tilting) to the handler who can now load the bag in the trolley/container. So , basically, the system works similar (at least then in that terminal)


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