David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7735 posts, RR: 13 Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1600 times:
The BBC are reporting two short-haul airlines are about to have MAN expansion. One is VLM's new 5 daily weekday LCY service starting 9th September but the other one is written cryptically:
"Ryanair is tripling the size of their fleet".
Does this mean from 4 flights daily they are going to 12? Or is it a tripling available capacity i.e. using 737-800s on all services and introducing a couple more rotations? Or are we talking just a general expansion of an extra service per day?
Anyone with a high IQ who can explain that cryptic BBC sentence and what is implies for MAN, please respond!
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2636 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
If nothing else there will be a capacity increase from Ryanair @ MAN. They are phasing out their B737-200 between now and the end of 2003, so all services will be upgraded to the 189 seat B737-800 in the next 12 months or so.
However, I honestly don't see Ryanair expanding service at Manchester in terms of new destinations, aside from having some very public fall-outs in the past, including MAPLC impounding a Ryanair 737 for non-payment of landing fees, Manchester really doesn't fall into the category of tertiary airports that Ryanair base most flights around.
Ryanair aren't in much of a bargaining position at Manchester to negotiate the rock-bottom (or free) landing and passenger fees they can get at under-utilised airports. Plus at Manchester the congestion means that the tight turnarounds are harder to achieve.
If the BBC is reporting 2 short-haul airlines are expanding, if one is VLM, I would think the other may well be bmi regional. With EMA going all baby, those Embraers have got to go somwhere, and Manchester and Leeds look likely to get at least some of them.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7735 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1517 times:
Crosswind, the rolling "News in brief" on the BBC Manchester section of BBC online still has just VLM and Ryanair listed together with that nonsensical comment! It would also fly in the face of them having LPL as their principal base in Northwest England as I would have thought they would increase LPL-DUB frequency in advance of MAN-DUB unless they were trying to force Aer Lingus out of the picture.
I have heard a rumour about a new MAN-TLS service operated by bmi regional but I'm sure they'd need another couple of destinations on board at the same time - perhaps VIE and FBU?
EGNM-LBA From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1450 times:
As David implies, Peel Holdings have recently signed a long-term contract with Ryanair for future route development out of LPL. Routes from the NW to the likes of Hahn, Beauvais etc are very unlikely to be launched from MAN as a result. The UK-Dublin market is to some extent a completely different kettle of fish and I doubt that the terms of RYR's agreement with LPL will obligate them to concentrate any expansion to DUB from the NW from LPL. Their MAN market is sizeable and they will not have compramised their ability to react to market conditions on the route.