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Any Intl Airline Have A Domestic Leg In The Us?  
User currently offlineAguimar01464 From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

does anyone know if there is any internacional airline that flies a domestic leg in the us?if yes wich airline and can you buy a ticket on such flight? wich routes?

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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Qantas flies JFK-LAX and LAX-JFK you CANNOT buy tickets on this route.

I believe Saudi Arabian flies JFK-IAD on occasion.



User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Yes, a fair amount do, but they only exist as tag-ons. Because of cabotage rules, no non-US based carrier can operate a domestic US route and sell tickets only on the domestic portion. The passengers must be coming from or continuing onward to an international destination.

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

BA from IAD to IAH and from BWI to CLT. KE also flies from JFK to ANC. None of this routes have traffic rights.

User currently offlineCorsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Corsair was flying ORY/SFO/LAX/ORY during the summer as well.

User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

BA wants the rights to be able to fly within the usa and pick pax up on the way, eg it flies heathrow to la and picks pax up in ny to fill its spare seats, therefore the pax in ny get to la on a cheaper flight. It wants this if there is full open skies between the usa and the uk because us carriers want to same right in the uk.


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User currently offlineFUTURA From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

what about IBERIA and their A319's??


Vincent
User currently offlineZebfly2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

IBERIA's 319's go to the Caribbean from MIA. I understand that you can purchase a ticket to fly from MIA to caribbean destinations on IB. I'm not sure how competitive the prices are.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

EVA flies dali between EWR and Seattle enroute to Taipei.

"BA wants the rights to be able to fly within the usa and pick pax up on the way, eg it flies heathrow to la and picks pax up in ny to fill its spare seats, therefore the pax in ny get to la on a cheaper flight. It wants this if there is full open skies between the usa and the uk because us carriers want to same right in the uk."

US carriers have no interest in flying passengers between LHR and Manchester etc, it's only Richard Branson that wants to fly within the US. BA just wants to launch their alliance with AA, BMI wants to allign closer with UAL.



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User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4281 times:


I may be wrong....but I thought that I read that Canadian carriers have or will have the right to fly domestic U.S. routes and to pick up passengers. However, they do not exercise it at present because American carriers would be allowed to do the same on Canadian domestic routes.


User currently offlineVinovalentino From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

BA used to have a flight some years back that was routed Toronto-New York -Manchester or Birmingham. It was flown with a 757.

Now it's not a domestic route but pretty close. You could buy very cheap tickets from Toronto to New York ($99 Cdn).

I don't believe this flight still operates.





User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

China Airlines has nonstops between Anchorage and
New York(JFK). It is part of the TPE-ANC-JFK flight.
Stopover traffic only for int'l passengers. (i.e. if you fly
TPE-JFK, you can visit ANC for a few days)



User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

I think JL has LAX-LAS but I'm not really sure. Can anyone confirm this?


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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2395 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

Can you still fly United Airlines from Sydney to Melbourne?

User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

JAL used to operate NRT-SFO-LAS but now it looks like the flights have been switched to NRT-LAS non-stops. I dont believe they ever operated LAS-LAX-NRT.


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

Typically, if a foreign airline had domestic traffic rights in the US, there would have to be some kind of reciprocal agreement with the foreign government. I do not know of any, though. Unless someone is certain to the contrary, it's a safe bet that no such flights exist today.

Pete


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4135 times:
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As mentioned, international airlines are not permitted to fly domestically in the US (with fare paying pax) due to cabotage rights. The closest to this is BA's IAD-IAH sector, although this is only a extension of the LHR-IAH flight.




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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Oag.com currently shows JL 25 LAS-LAX-NRT four days a week. And JL 43 is a Saturday-only LAS-NRT one-stop; haven't found out the one stop yet.

User currently offlineAirOne From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 609 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Hey-

I know South frican operates a flight from Johannesburg to Atlanta with a stop in Ft. Lauderdale (thats right, FLL not MIA). It only stops when bound for Atlanta, not on the way back ,so it is more of a technical stop. It touches down in FLL at some crazy hour, like 2:30 in the mourning so it can get to Atlanta at a reasonable hour.

Also, did or doesnt BA have a Pheonix to San Diego? I know that Eygpt Air also had a LAX-JFK.

AirOne


User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1649 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

The FLL Flight is/was SAA #209

I'm not sure if it's still running to FLL or going direct to ATL.
(I'll look it up)

She would get in at 5:30 and would lifting off at 6:20. I'll tell something, It is one hell of a sight to see a 747 do a 45min turnaround.



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User currently offlineAirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

Only one I can think of is Korean from JFK-Anchorage, and yes you can buy tickets on this route.

Other than that, Ethiopian flies from Newark to Dulles, Saudi Arabian from JFK-Dulles and I believe Orlando as well. EgyptAir and Qantas from JFK-LAX, and EL Al from JFK to LAX/MIA and god knows where else, cant think of anything else at the moment. And no you cannot buy tickets on these flights.


User currently offlineCopenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 599 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

That is why the EU-commission has gone into this, it is not fair an US carrier can go eg, JFK-MAD-ATH, flying with paying passengers MAD-ATH, but not the other way, eg, CPH-EWR-SFO, free market?  Smile

User currently offlineNBC News1 From UK - England, joined May 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Canadian airlines cannot currently fly within the US. It's still not allowed.

Air Canada is pushing for it though.


User currently offlinePHX Flyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 3955 times:

<< Qantas flies JFK-LAX and LAX-JFK you CANNOT buy tickets on this route. >>

Actually, this is not quite true. American codeshares the domestic leg of the Qantas flight, and you CAN buy an AA roundtrip JFK-LAX-JFK, operated by Qantas. I couldn't believe it myself, when I was looking for flights to PHX recently, but it' true: I booked the return flight using a connection via LAX, with the transcon operated by Qantas, and AA ticketed the itineray without problems.



User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

"JFK-MAD-ATH, flying with paying passengers MAD-ATH",

What US airline does this?

No US airlines operate domestic flights in Europe, Pan Am and I believe TWA were allowed to fly from LHR, CDG and FRA to other countries in Europe. And Pan Am had a regional set up in Berlin, but that was awarded after WWII when there wasn't much of a German airline.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
25 Go Canada! : ba has stated in the past it wishes to do this as part of any open skies package.
26 Delta-flyer : Only one I can think of is Korean from JFK-Anchorage, and yes you can buy tickets on this route. You bring up a good point. This flight is code-shared
27 DeltAirlines : According to DL's e-timetable, you can't fly JFK-ANC. DL has two "flights" from JFK to ICN daily, one n/s and one one-stop that we all know stops in A
28 Trickijedi : Philippine Airlines does Vancouver to San Francisco. They also do LAX and SFO to HNL for a technical stop on the way to MNL.
29 MAH4546 : El Al flies MIA-EWR with 777s during the low summer season (right now) and MIA-JFK with 744s during high summer. STT757, United flies LHR-BRU daily.
30 STT757 : "STT757, United flies LHR-BRU daily" Yeah they used to have a bunch of others from LHR they flew with 727s after PA. My point is though is that is not
31 Post contains images Clickhappy : Aeroflot flys from SEA to SFO with a 777, I took a picture of it today
32 Spark : Are you sure the PAL flight between SFO-HNL is a technical stop? I would think there would be a significant number of passengers flying between Honolu
33 L-188 : I was able to buy a non-rev pass on that China Air ANC-JFK leg that Bobcat brought up, when I worked for Reeve. NEver had the chance to however
34 Indian_flyboy : Any country which has negotiated the 8th or 9th Freedom rights with the US can carry passengers on domestic sectors within the US .I do think UK and U
35 FutureFO : the routes that are domestic segments are stopover only no online connections.
36 Trickijedi : Spark, PAL lists the Honolulu stop as a "technical stop". I am unsure of whether or not passengers are also loaded at that time. I'm guessing no but a
37 Jcs17 : You can also buy tickets on Cathay Pacifics flight from JFK-YVR or even use AAdvantage miles on the route.
38 MAH4546 : My point is though is that is not domestic service, that's like BA flying from Toronto-NY which they are allowed to due and pick up Toronto-NY passeng
39 V Jet : PHX Flyer unless its changed very recently, which it hasnt, AA should not have ticketed you transcon on the QF metal unless you also have a ticket on
40 AirOne : Hey- Yeah, as someone else said, MAD to ATH wouldn't be domestic. Ahich is like what Cathay Pacific does or used to do by flying JFK to Vancouver and
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