Planenutz From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1282 posts, RR: 10 Posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
On April 2 I'll be traveling from Mexico City to Bogata. Though I would have prefered the Mexicana A320s or COPA's 737-700s, I've been booked on Avianca in both directions:
Flt. 073 Dep. MEX 3:30pm Arr. BOG 8:00pm
Flt. 072 Dep. BOG 3:15pm Arr. MEX 7:45pm
I'll be on a 757 in both directions.
Has anyone out there flown Avianca? If so, what can I expect?
I know they've had a couple of problems with hijackings on some of there domestic flights. With the exception of that 707 running out of fuel inbound to JFK in the 80's, and the bombing of one of their MD-80s a couple of years ago. I don't think thay've had any serious safety problems.
Or have they?
LatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2696 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1233 times:
Just for the record, Avianca, Aviacion nacional de Colombia is the oldest airline in the Americas. followed by Mexicana de Aviacion......
I haven't been to Colombia or flown on Avianca but I have heard about them. From my point of view it's a great airline because of the livery and because they once operated 2 747's. Quite a feat for Latin American airlines. It also flies to many international destinations.
for example Bogota-London Heathrow, Paris, Frankfurt, Madrid.
Well, what I heard is that because of the bad times in Colombia there is not to many people that would choose Colombia as a vacation destination. This hurts Avianca a lot. What I have heard is that employee moral is low especially with the flight attendants. I have also heard that Avianca tries to keep expenses down, so much to the point that it offers a low budget type of food to it's passengers. Actually, Avianca doesn't even offer meals on some of it's South American network routes!
They also spend a small amount or don't spend at all on passenger amenities such as blankets and pillows.
This is all stuff that I have read or heard, thought, don't take my word for it.
By the way, it's nice to know that you are visiting Colombia. I think that Colombians are some of the nicest people that I've met.
Keep us informed on the aviation aspects in that part of the world.
Also, it would be interesting to find out why Avensa stop flying it's european services. I know that Caracas if far away but if you get any news keep us informed.....
Fdelatb From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1233 times:
Avianca is one of the oldest airlines in the world, I just flew a MD-80 from Quito to Bogota and a B-767 from Bogota to miami, The only thing I can tell you is that is 100%to fly in Avianca than in taco airline, the pilots are much proffesional and with more experience than the charro ones. South American pilots are among the best iin the world, you can find them flying all over the world, they are fully bilingual and beside that the great majority where train in USA and most of them hold FAA ATP licences, if you want to fly in Latin America is much better to fly in the local companies than in American compnies, just remember what it happen to Eastern in Bolivia, most american pilots most of the times don't know what is happening down there.
AUR From Colombia, joined Jun 1999, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1208 times:
Well, I am Colombian and I have flown on Avianca many times.
I used to like the airline very much, because yes, Colombian pilots, are very well trained, (not only in avianca but in the other airlines too). I also liked the fleet, from the 727's in the past to the 757, 767, and MD-83's now, they are kept in optimal conditions, (Avianca has a reputation of exellent maintenance to it's planes). And of course the pretty Colombian stewardeses.
But the weak point is the awful service!!!!!!, I think avianca won the prize for not being on time, (Now is getting better), About the meals.... they're small, The stewardeses sometimes don't even pretend being kind to anyone, and Avianca is EXPENSEVE!!!!, That's why many Colombians don't fly on this airline anymore. Instead we use ACES, which is the best Colombian airline today.
IB6400 From Mexico, joined Jun 1999, 245 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1212 times:
Are you seriously a pilot? I think between pilots there is some mutual and cordial respect.
I find as a Mexican quite insulting your phrases: "Charro pilots" and "taco airlines". We don´t say Avianca is a "Marijuana airline" or American Airlines is a "Drug dealing company"
Where is your f...... respect for pilots in Mexico?
I am with Latinplane... Where is your professionalism?
¿Es usted en verdad un piloto? Creo o me parece suponer que entre pilotos debe de haber un respeto mutuo y cordial.
Encuentro muy majadero sus frases "Pilotos charros" y "Aerolíneas Taco". Me parece que la gente no le dice a Avianca "La línea aérea de la Marijuana" o a American "Traficante de drogas" ¿verdad?
¿Dónde está el puñetero respeto hacia los pilotos mexicanos?
Estoy definitivamente con Latinplane... ¿Dónde está su profesionalismo?
Ciudad de México
Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset