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Does SAA Fly Its 744 Fully Loaded On JFK To Jnb?  
User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4790 times:

Does SAA fly its 747-400 fully loaded on JFK to JNB ?
(a nonstop route of some 8000 miles) Or is it weight
restricted in order to make the flight nonstop?

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User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4779 times:

I typed both JFK and JNB in upper-case letters.
However, why is JNB showing up as "Jnb" after I post it?
(while JFK remains as JFK)

Does this forum have some kind of software to change
words into lower cases?  Smile


User currently offlineJfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

I flew their longer (in miles) non-stop route in 2000, ATL-JNB. It was half-full, and I heard a comment that was due to the length of the trip. It was on a 744. On the return, we made one refueling stop, in Cape Verde I believe (I think the code was SID).

Justin


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

I know that both westbound routes stop at Cape Verde right now, but both eastbound flights are nonstop. I would assume that during the summer season there is a payload restriction, but I would think that the flight could be full during the winter.

Jeff


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4457 times:

http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/7474sec3.pdf

a 747-400 with full payload is only good for maybe 6900 statute miles. But filling every seat and carrying their baggage (but no cargo), adds up to less than a full payload-- enough to fly maybe 1000 miles farther. So depends what you mean by fully loaded.


User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

So what does SAA do for this flight?

User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

SAA must still be making money out of New York as the airline announced today that it will be adding two addtional flights from 1 Dec 2002 to bring it back up to a daily service. I would imagine that it is difficult to justify this if the flights are not being filled!

User currently offlineExpratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

When I flew SAA from JFK to JNB in January 97, it was a completely full flight and it was nonstop. Westbound flights from JNB to US have to stop at Cape Verde because JNB's 5,000 foot altitude limit the fuel load and therefore range.

User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

SAA is currently toying with the idea of using its A340-600's to introduce non-stop services TO New York out of Jo'burg, thus offering non-stop westbound & eastbound services. Should be interesting!

User currently offlineVambridge From South Africa, joined Apr 2001, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

I flew the JFK - JNB route on SA 202 in August 2001. The aircraft was chock 'n block in terms of passenger numbers. The initial cruising level was FL 330. Not too bad, so I assume they restrict the cargo payload.

Greetings
Vambridge


User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

Two years ago (2000) i flew JFK-JNB and man was that flight packed. But on the return it was only 45% full.
DC-10's Forever



"Traveling light is the only way to fly" - Eric Clapton
User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Does JFK-JNB have to stop in CPT now? ATL-JNB is scheduled that way every day now, I assume because maybe it can't make JNB nonstop at this time of year.

User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

Does JFK-JNB have to stop in CPT now?

No, all of the JFK-->JNB flights operate non-stop, except on a Wednesday when the flight operates via Ilha do Sal. This particular flight is able to uplift maximum cargo and is an important link for the people of the Cape Verde Islands who apparently have quite a large population living in the US.


User currently offlineAussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3916 times:


When the flight operates with the stop over what happens with the passengers and crew? Does anybody get off? Also what does this do to the flight time? Does it make it just as long as flying via Europe? How long is the flight with the stop over in total? Many thanks for your help.


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

Does JFK-JNB have to stop in CPT now?
No, all of the JFK-->JNB flights operate non-stop, except on a Wednesday when the flight operates via Ilha do Sal. This particular flight is able to uplift maximum cargo and is an important link for the people of the Cape Verde Islands who apparently have quite a large population living in the US.

TACV now has a JFK-SID flight on Mondays. I don't know if that will result in SA's discontinuance of the Wednesday SID stop, or whether there's enough demand for both services.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

SAA will return to JFK DAILY is because it has just begun code-share on Delta Express' flight from JFK to Florida.

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