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How Big Was Air NZ-Ansett Australia Airline Group?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

From what I heard, before the demise of Ansett Australia, Air New Zealand-Ansett Australia Airline Group was actually one of the top 20-30 largest airlines in the World. Can anyone confirm this?

If not, what was the rating?

Awaiting your reply.

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

20th biggest.

*filler*



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

What about now????? Any chance of regaining its previous size?

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Bigger than QF? I doubt it.

User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

why are you asking these questions again united, ansett has died, please let go of it.

ANZ will never regain its size because helen clark has destined it to become a regional carrier.The only way it could grow is to buy another airline, it cant afford it.



It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

Yeah, Size doesn't matter Desmond...........Unless you're a woman!  Insane

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

LOL NZ767!  Smile

Well........


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

NZ (referred to by it's old designator of TE for the rest of my post to prevent confusion between New Zealand and Air New Zealand) is, and probably always will be, a niche carrier. TE only has *twenty one* international destinations, including only ONE (LHR) in Europe, and TWO (LAX/HNL) in America. All the rest are in the Asia/Pacific area. Perhaps that will give us a proper sense of perspective when we're comparing TE with the big boys!


It can't be like SQ or CX because the geographic position of NZ precludes it from being a major hub for TE to expand around.

It can't be like UA, AA, or BA because NZ doesn't have the population base for TE to grow that way.

What it CAN and HAS been is a niche carrier with top-notch service that provides quality transport into the South Pacific, while it concentrates on rebuilding it's finances and revamping it's long and short-haul operations to stay competitive in the changing airline market. It's time to consolidate, not time to make another attempt at huge expansion!







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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Well said! TG992!

Jimmy


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

By expanding into Australia????? Not for the time being. But in the future?

User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

ANZ will never regain its size because helen clark has destined it to become a regional carrier.

My memories tells me that Helen Clark never say such word.

About ANZ's current size, it doesn't have to be big. Because Big doesn't always mean "better". I would rather see ANZ position itself as a small, but unique international carrier.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2106 times:

I agree. But how big is Air New Zealand right now?

User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Geez United... how big? Bigger than Virgin Blue, smaller than QF. Bigger than Dragon Air, smaller than Cathay Pacific. Bigger than Silkair, smaller than SQ.

As mentioned, Air New Zealand is modest in size when compared to her major competitors in the region. Domestically, how big is New Zealand? It has more sheeps than people! So that would give you a picture of how big the airline really is.

Can ANZ grow? Probably, but after the recent turmoil, growth would probably be cautiously handled because they are obviously not ready for it. They were the 20th largest simply because they absorbed Ansett (then Australia's 2nd largest carrier). But now, they are back to where they were before, a small little international airline.

However, ANZ is excellent in the service it provides (tho some die-hard Ansett lovers might deny) and it remains that way. Lets hope they continue to shine.

Final note, let it go Desmond. Ansett is gone and ANZ has gone back to New Zealand. Stop stirring up shit.

Cheers
Ryan



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User currently offlineDuff From New Zealand, joined Oct 2001, 117 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

United Airline. I think everyone is getting a little sick and tired of your posts digging up the past. It is still a very sensitive issue for those involved and only results in conflict.

Time to look to the future


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

It is still a very sensitive issue for those involved and only results in conflict.

It's a issue that has been discussed over and over.


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