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Air France Pilots Plan Sudden Strike  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2779 times:

The pilot unions at Groupe Air France S.A. have announcd an unexpected four day strike from Friday 6 August 2002 to Monday 9 August 2002.

Air France said it would hope to publish a revised flight schedule on Thursday 5 August's afternoon after a meeting with the main union - SNPL.

Pilots are demanding a 10% pay increase. Air France has offered an inflation matched pay increase scheme until 2005. Air France also gave pilots a 7.3% pay increase in December 2001 and April 2002.

More information at the Financial Times website

Information was gathered from the above hyperlinked webpage. Full information can be viewed by clicking the above hyperlink


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User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

> an unexpected four day strike from Friday 6 August 2002 to Monday 9 August 2002.

I believe we're talking about September and not August.  Big grin


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2071 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Well, considering we're now in September, has this strike already occurred or are those the wrong dates in the post?

User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

It seems Air France pilots are demanding an unscheduled 3 day vacation  Smile

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Unfortunately, there has been a slight error in my above post. It is supposed to look like below:
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The pilot unions at Groupe Air France S.A. have announcd an unexpected four day strike from Friday 6 September 2002 to Monday 9 September 2002.

Air France said it would hope to publish a revised flight schedule on Thursday 5 August's afternoon after a meeting with the main union - SNPL.

Pilots are demanding a 10% pay increase. Air France has offered an inflation matched pay increase scheme until 2005. Air France also gave pilots a 7.3% pay increase in December 2001 and April 2002.

More information at the Financial Times website

Information was gathered from the above hyperlinked webpage. Full information can be viewed by clicking the above hyperlink



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineAamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1056 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

I was wondering when this years major strike was coming!

now i know!

A^A MD-11


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

How well are Air France pilots paid in relation to other international airline pilots, such as at BA, AA, UA, Iberia, KLM, etc. Anybody know?


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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

As for the French, how do they ever get anything done ?. There is always one group on strike. Look at the airport, its the trains, the ramp workers, the tug drivers, the cargo loaders, the cleaners...........

And yes, another very well written story, how do you do it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

What do you mean how do they ever get anything done? They go on strike! They want something so they strike. The company can't afford to have its pilots on strike like that, so eventually the company gives in. Sure, it inconveniences others, but it gets the pilots what they want. That's the French way of doing things.

AF337 (our first of 2 flights) is already cancelled for 06September!

-Chris



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

AF staff scares passengers away, don't they see it? They are on strike way too often. I myself, I was booked on AF three times, and never got actually transported because the airline was off-line at that time. I will never book a flight operated by Air France again unless someone uses a gun to force me or the situation improves.

Also, these are not the best times for the industry to demand a 10%(!!!!!) pay increase. Sometimes I just think some pilots are getting megalomaniac.

SailorOrion


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2447 times:

"I was booked on AF three times, and never got actually transported" -HILARIOUS!!! "I will never book a flight operated by Air France again unless someone uses a gun to force me or the situation improves" - looks like the former is much more probable then the latter...

I have never flown with AF but appeared twice at CDG on my round-trip from SVO in 1991. Of course, they were on strike, on the day of my return flight. We had to wait for nobody knew how long but after several hours they let the SU flights to depart (proletarian solidarity?). Still, our luggage arrived even by a later flight... But I still want to fly with AF as they are known as excellent airline. At least until I get my three times... Big grin


User currently offlineCO/ba From United States of America, joined May 2001, 399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

It's not exactly sudden when it happens every year.

That was the good thing about working for my former employer as every year when AF went on strike we got a nice little vacation.


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Well, today both flights were indeed cancelled. The co-pilot of the inbound flight didn't want to leave CDG because of the impending flight. Our 2nd flight was actually scheduled to operate, but did not for mechanical reasons. The 2nd flight (767-300) should be operating this weekend.

One other gripe the pilots have is the privatization of the company. While capitalists say privatization is purely beneficial from a profit-making point of view, the pilots do not have as much "capitalistic" confidence so they want to ensure that they will be well taken care of.

The day was spent helping Delta (they do our handling) re-route passengers through other airlines and cities. Fun fun fun. I've never been more happy to be home.

-Chris/BOSKLAF



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineAirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Flpuck6, by chance, do you work with Carlos and Jason? If you do, tell them Erik "island boy" from Air France JFK Flight Operations says wassup. Today they're cancelling AF023 and AF011 out of JFK, that leaves AF007 and AF009. The 009, normally a B777 will be replaced by a 747-200, that should be something, my first time doing ops for a 747, its been over a year since we had one at JFK.

User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

I was flying today to JFK from GVA via CDG and my AF connecting flight has been cancelled. I've been rerouted and will later fly (maybe...) on the only JFk AF flight today...operated by an Air Atlanta 767!
Luckily I have a frequent flyer Elite status otherwise I would have been stuck here! First time ever I have a problem with Air France.



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2326 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

I guess the french book "strike for dummies" has so far only been translated from French into Italian...

At least these guys have the decency to anounce a "sudden" strike a couple of days in advance...

PW100



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