J_hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1483 times:
Heard an interview on local BOS TV about new TSA personnel...a pax said they took her "Leatherman(?)" tool and her eyeglass screwdriver....Now I'm wondering...I have one to fix my glasses that has a screw that comes lose sometimes...will they let me have it onboard or not? Anybody have any ideas on this? Afterall, these things are about a inch long with a plastic handle!
FutureFO From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined Oct 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 22 Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
Most security issues are to remain limited to the Carrier and TSA's websites. I am only saying that as a GSC there are things that we are limited to discussing. That is my point, I don't think it needs to be discussed outside of those sites.
Sinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1563 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1299 times:
Who would be that crazy, as to try to bring a Leatherman on board an aircraft. The knives and box cutters used on 9-11 were a hell of a lot less deadly than the blades that can be found in a Leatherman, and look what they did. As for the eyeglass repair kit. That seems to be a little over the top, even for the TSA.
AS_GSC From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1255 times:
Everything that I have read on this forum has not compromised civil aviation security in any way, shape or form. As GSCs, we know what can and cannot be discussed. We are aware of what is protected by CFRs, security directives and affiliated TSA documents. Discussing whether eyeglass repair kits are permitted past the checkpoint....hey have at it!
To play devil's advocate...we're all working with a newly formed federalized workforce (that's still evolving) that was created from scratch less than a year ago. There are going to be misinterpretations of newly revised CFRs, prohibited items lists, and other things that to you, me and the traveling public may be "no-brainers".
If there were any concerns about whether an item shouldn't be confiscated, they should be directed directly to the TSA at the specific airport. TSA Federal Security Directors and Managers at locations across the country can make the regs more strict at their specific airport(s), but they certainly can't make the regs less stringent.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1212 times:
As to screwdrivers, those are potential stabbing weapons and are therefore banned.
A small screwdriver might not be large enough to kill someone, but you could use it to destroy an eye for example. Therefore it is a potential weapon as well (plus the regs don't mention a minimum size for a screwdriver to be banned).
Effectively, you brought it upon yourself. There was bound to be a period of hypersensitive screening in the US after nearly 3 decades of blissfully ignoring the threat of people coming on board with weapons.
Over time, things should settle down into a more regular routine like what we've had in Europe since around 1975.
J_hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1188 times:
Ok..for the under-informed (like me!)...Just what are the abbrev "GSC" and "CSR" for? TSA has been in news so....
And IF an eyeglass screwdriver can be used to injure an eye, maybe we should ban all pens & pencils also??? And just imagine someone who might put a fake but sharpened point on a pen...nice little weapon, right
And is there a way to ask the TSA by phone/email for clarifications on items like this screwdriver? Contact is??
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 48 Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1177 times:
Jwenting - anything smaller than a tennis ball can conceivably be used to blind someone. That includes fingers. I hope I am not going to be told one day that I will have to leave my fingers behind if I wish to fly
That being said, if you are really worried about your glasses coming loose, tighten them before you fly. Unless you are opening and closing them every minute, I doubt they will loosen much over a even a 24 hour journey.
"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
AS_GSC From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
We can certainly "what-if" this to death......The fact of the matter is that even if passengers went through the checkpoint naked and with no carry-on baggage, you still won't have a 100% secure concourse or aircraft.
VirginFlyer- I'm with you on this one. Anyone who has had self defense classes shouldn't be able to go through the checkpoint as their arms, legs and whatnot are now considered weapons. Common sense should be applied, but we're all going through growing pains with the advent of a new federal workforce.
It's like parents giving their newborn the keys to the car and expecting it to know how to drive. Remember it's new to everyone.....the airline, airports, and especially the government.
Also a GSC is a Ground Security Coordinator....This person is usually an airline employee who has received specific training approved by the TSA (Transportation Security Administration). This person is a primary contact for government, airport, and other airline officials regarding security issues impacting the GSCs airline. GSCs are privy to security information which most airline employees are not.
A CRO is a Complaint Resolution Official who primarily handles incidents or issues involving passengers with disabilities. This is an airline employee who has received specific training in order to resolve these issues.
J_hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1132 times:
Was curious about what info I could find on web...found on http://www.tsa.gov a toll-free contact number (866-289-9673) so called (during typical business hrs) and got a rep who was very pleasant...asked about this specific item...he said they were looking at improving detailed specs of what is/isn't allowed...but until all security under TSA, it depends on individual airports security dept...said I could call and ask them...but since I'll be using BOS, I suspect they are more paranoid than some!
I asked if they could add these glass kits to allowed list..he took my name and said he would pass my request on...he agreed that common sense would permit it, like the tweezer thing...
And yes, my glasses sometimes loosen that screw in hours and sometimes it takes days!