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The Losingest US Airlines Are Top In On-Time  
User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

United and US Airways tied for the top two performing US air carriers in on-time arrivals for the month of July.

This continues United's streak of making the top 3 for the past couple of months.

Rank:
1) United 83.2
2) US Airways 83.2
3) Continental 82.8
4) American 80.3
5) America West 78.7
6) Delta 78.6
7) Southwest 77.9
8) Northwest 77.9
9) Alaska 77.1

It's too bad people don't pay attention to OT as a metric of airline performance nowadays...

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User currently offlineCanadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Can someone explain to me the wording of the title of this thread!?? LOL!

User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

US was also #1 in on-time departures and #1 in lost baggage...

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

LOSINGEST? Is that the kinda crap they teach you at Purdue?

User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Wow!!  Wow! I'm Impresseded !! Big grin

User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Just to show what a turn around ATA has made in the last year or so , they would have placed 4th. Two years ago ATA would have placed 10th !

Go ATA !


User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Someone needs a proper edumacation.

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Slang, people.

Get with the tiz-imes.


User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2539 times:



User currently offlineAmerica West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

I'm with the times, but I've never heard anyone say "Losingest" before.

How did we get so ~~~>

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAMRAAM From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

LOL

Nice title! That's what I call a Bushism, he'll probably be our president in 30 years.


User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2436 times:
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Unfortunately, on-time doesn't necessarily translate into more earnings and less cost, which is what executives are paid to obtain. Shareholders only care if the on-time aspect translates to more customers and more revenue, which hopefully will trickle down to more profits. Companies that are starting to look bad in the public eye (ie. U and UAL with their financial woes) are going to do what they can to keep the customers they have left. Why not woo them with the best service they can?

Unfortunately, some of the best experiences I've had as a customer came from companies that were about to go under (or were in the process of).



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6202 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

When did this thread become an English class ?
You all know what he meant so let it go.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

C'mon guys, give him a break, he was just trying to share some information with the rest of us.

This is just a forum on the internet, it's NO BIG DEAL.

Some people take A.net wwwaaaaayyyy to seriously.


User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2390 times:

Yes National, I agree with you. I was just joking around. The opportunity to have some fun was too good to pass up. I have nothing against UA744Flagship, and I hope he (and you) can see that I was just having some fun with his gaff.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2383 times:

Hahaha, Losingest. That's funny.........


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offline737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 365 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

I bet a lot this has to do with the fact UA and U have greatly reduced their schedule and have excess capacity to pick up the slack if an aircraft has a mechanical or long delay. UA's reduced capacity has also helped out in reducing delays out of SFO which contributed to a large percentage of UA's overall delays. Those airlines that haven't reduced capacity that much (i.e. Alaska, Northwest and Southwest) are all at the bottom of the list. Its interesting that the range from best to worst is only 5%, which isn't that dramatic.


Happiest is a man who has his vocation as a hobby
User currently offlineSpark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

737-900
That's one of the things that people often misconstrue about statistics. They take minute differences as being indictative of superior performance.
Think of it this way! You stood slightly less than a 2 in 10 chance of suffering a delay with United. Alaska had slightly more than a 2 in 10 chance of suffering a delay (basically the same). The ranking system is mainly luck of the draw!


User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

How does the size of the airline skew the percentage?

Is it "easier" for U or AA to have a higher percentage than say ATA or AirTran?

joe


User currently offlineTbird From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 851 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Hey There

#1 in on-time performance and last in baggage handling! That's funny  Laugh out loud Maybe it's part of US Air's new ticket policy. Bags extra!

Tom


User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Ceteris paribus, does it not make sense that the airlines with the most reserve aircraft and least congested facilities would be recording the best on-time performance? Right now, carriers like UA and US have more flexibility when it comes to aircraft assignments, and therefore should have a higher controllable on-time departures rating. While some carriers year-over-year ASMs are down over 10%, Southwest and Alaska are both operating at full schedule, so they will have more mechanical/crew scheduling delays. Quite simply, no airline is ever going to leave any more planes parked than it has to.

OK, so it's a bit of an over-simplification, but I don't think it's fair to say that UA and US are doing a better job serving customers by operating fewer flights. Besides, there are only six points separating the top and bottom airline here. Most likely, not even a frequent flyer would notice such a subtle difference. All airlines pretty much know what to do to minimize delays.


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

This i find funny.

Northwest was the top for on time a couple years ago. They open this new terminal at DTW and add a new runway that were both supposed to make better ontime departures and arrivals and now they are second to last.


User currently offlineN628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

US has no surplus aircraft. There are very few mechanical spares in the system. The aircraft that are being returned to the lessors in the fall are resulting in a schedule reduction.

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

I guess we have no MLB fans who've used the term "winningest team" before. I really never thought it would be so funny. Well whatever gets your rocks off!

I would call UA's performance "significant" even despite lies, damn lies, and statistics, because it operates in 3 of the most expensive (SFO - most expensive costs per departure, DEN, and IAD) and two of the most operationally unreliable (SFO and ORD) airports in the country.

True, UA is hording a lot of spare aircraft, and running the second most reduced schedule, but still -- having compounding operations in ORD and SFO, and being able to achieve #1 is nothing short of a miracle. Keep in mind ORD experienced a lot of thunderstorms in July.


User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

I don't mean to drag this out just a bit longer but "losingest" is in fact a word.

LOSINGEST, adj. In last place, worst off, lagging behind the rest. ["losing"+ superlative]
Context and source: "CBS is being asked to pay producers more for its series because, as the losingest network, CBS cancels more of them." (Wall Street Journal 09 Feb. 1989)


http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~ling215/NewWords/page2.html

But as Chepos said, despite not having seen the link, you all know what he meant.



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offline737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 365 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Hey Tbird...

To be fair to US, they were number one in least bags lost. They had 2.71 mishandled bags per every 1,000 passengers.



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