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What's Up With JFK-GIG?  
User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5632 posts, RR: 5
Posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 993 times:

AA and RG have cancelled their JFK-GIG flights. AA still serves it as a stop on its JFK-GRU flight; RG has no direct service at all, though it still has a JFK-GRU nonstop. Why is this so? I thought that Rio was a popular tourist destination, certainly more so than Sao Paulo (as I semi-seriously noted on another forum, 90% of Americans probably couldn't find Sao Paulo on a map and 95% probably couldn't pronounce it correctly). Is this yet another lingering effect of 9/11?


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User currently offlineVermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 447 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 970 times:

Actually Sao Paulo is the one of/or the major business center of Brazil, therefore it makes sense to focus the attention there. Furthermore there is a bigger yield on those flights due to the heavy premium traffic it generates

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 968 times:

Nope, RIO has been on the decline for years, CO used to have daily DC-10 nonstops to GIG but now they tag GIG to their IAH-GRU flight. However their EWR-GRU flight remains.

UAL also axed GIG prior to 9-11, RIO just doesn't make money, it didn't before 9-11 it's not after 9-11. IT has good loads though, just lousy yields. Sao Paulo is the where the business center of Brazil is located.

It's a shame , Varig had done alot of advertsing for their Rio flights. They have a large billboard promoting it on the Van Wyck near Jamaica station and in Manhattan.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Actually, JFK-GIG nonstop will be back in December on Varig.


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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Another thing about Rio. Crime has skyrocketted there the last five years, making it less and less attractive as a tourist destination. Thailand has also replaced it as the place to get laid. Many European airlines have abandoned Rio as well. Such a shame as it's a beautiful city...

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 949 times:

A great movie, "Blame it on Rio". Starring Micheal Cain, I think a young Demi Moore is in it too.


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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 938 times:

Yup, it is a young Demi Moore. I don't know who the other girl is, but she's a cuttie as well...

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 890 times:

STT757, United Airlines offers daily 767-300ER service to Rio de Janeiro to Miami. GIG yields sucks, because it is heavily leisure. MIA is the exception, but that is because most of Miami's 60,000 Brazilians are from Rio and NE Brazil (though even from MIA, GRU is still the bigger yielder and has double the amount of flights), as opposed to the large Sao Paulo-originating population in New York City. As said, though, RG is bringing back JFK-GIG in December. It's a temporary cut for the slow season, and I doubt that yields on JFK-GIG are that bad that it can't be supported.


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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 882 times:

That's interesting. Supposedly between 50 000- 300 000 Brazilians living in the tri-state area. I still think those figures are high. You ask any of them if they're immigrants and 90% would say that they're in this country "temporarily". Supposedly Boston has the largest Brazilian population outside Brazil. Why doesn't Varig fly there?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 876 times:

Rai, the largest Brazilian community is Boston, roughly 150,000. New York City/Newark supposedly has about 125,000 (legal immigrants), while Miami's 60,000 (legal immigrants; Miami is a haven for the illegals) comes in third. Los Angeles and Orlando have sizeable communities as well.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 872 times:

On a side note, the reason Miami has the most Brazilian service (5 cities, ten dailies) is because Miami's Brazilian population is very wealthy and there are stronger business ties.


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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5632 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 811 times:

Yup, it is a young Demi Moore. I don't know who the other girl is, but she's a cuttie as well...

Michelle Johnson. Unlike Ms. Moore, her film career never really went anywhere.



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 787 times:

The Iron Bound section of Newark has a huge Portugese population (largest outside Portugal), however they are slowly being replaced by Brazilian Immigrants.

The Portugese of Newark are moving into the New Jersey Sububurbs and are being replaced in Newark by Brazilians.

Great food in the Iron Bound ,worth a visit to Ferry street.



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