PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 727 times:
AA and RG have cancelled their JFK-GIG flights. AA still serves it as a stop on its JFK-GRU flight; RG has no direct service at all, though it still has a JFK-GRU nonstop. Why is this so? I thought that Rio was a popular tourist destination, certainly more so than Sao Paulo (as I semi-seriously noted on another forum, 90% of Americans probably couldn't find Sao Paulo on a map and 95% probably couldn't pronounce it correctly). Is this yet another lingering effect of 9/11?
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Vermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 446 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 704 times:
Actually Sao Paulo is the one of/or the major business center of Brazil, therefore it makes sense to focus the attention there. Furthermore there is a bigger yield on those flights due to the heavy premium traffic it generates
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 702 times:
Nope, RIO has been on the decline for years, CO used to have daily DC-10 nonstops to GIG but now they tag GIG to their IAH-GRU flight. However their EWR-GRU flight remains.
UAL also axed GIG prior to 9-11, RIO just doesn't make money, it didn't before 9-11 it's not after 9-11. IT has good loads though, just lousy yields. Sao Paulo is the where the business center of Brazil is located.
It's a shame , Varig had done alot of advertsing for their Rio flights. They have a large billboard promoting it on the Van Wyck near Jamaica station and in Manhattan.
Rai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 693 times:
Another thing about Rio. Crime has skyrocketted there the last five years, making it less and less attractive as a tourist destination. Thailand has also replaced it as the place to get laid. Many European airlines have abandoned Rio as well. Such a shame as it's a beautiful city...
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 624 times:
STT757, United Airlines offers daily 767-300ER service to Rio de Janeiro to Miami. GIG yields sucks, because it is heavily leisure. MIA is the exception, but that is because most of Miami's 60,000 Brazilians are from Rio and NE Brazil (though even from MIA, GRU is still the bigger yielder and has double the amount of flights), as opposed to the large Sao Paulo-originating population in New York City. As said, though, RG is bringing back JFK-GIG in December. It's a temporary cut for the slow season, and I doubt that yields on JFK-GIG are that bad that it can't be supported.
Rai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 616 times:
That's interesting. Supposedly between 50 000- 300 000 Brazilians living in the tri-state area. I still think those figures are high. You ask any of them if they're immigrants and 90% would say that they're in this country "temporarily". Supposedly Boston has the largest Brazilian population outside Brazil. Why doesn't Varig fly there?
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 610 times:
Rai, the largest Brazilian community is Boston, roughly 150,000. New York City/Newark supposedly has about 125,000 (legal immigrants), while Miami's 60,000 (legal immigrants; Miami is a haven for the illegals) comes in third. Los Angeles and Orlando have sizeable communities as well.