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"Air Canada Jazz Cuts Routes"  
User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2742 posts, RR: 11
Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2113 times:

We all knew this was coming. I think it is good for Air Canada now that they are allowed to stop serving destinations that they aren't making money on.

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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Anyone know how Air Canada is doing on it's YYZ-MSP route (Jazz a/c)? I flew it about three yrs. ago and the flight was pretty full but I haven't heard anything lately.

There is some strong competition from NW with MSP being their main hub for servicing Canada. I believe they currently serve 9 communities in Canada from MSP, more than any other NW hub (DTW serves 5 cities in Canada).

pilottim747



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

"I believe there will be a transitional period for smaller communities," Mr. Collenette said. Although the government is "quite concerned" about the reductions, he believes other airlines will step in and fill the void.


What other airlines?



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User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2742 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1981 times:

Well maybe somebody will start an airline and it could serve those cities until it ceases operations?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1970 times:

The 3rd tier commuter carriers such as Air Georgian or Central Mountain Air.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2742 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1957 times:

Yeah I thought they would go in with there Beach's.

User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

That is Beech. Not Beach.


buhh bye
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Maybe Dash8King is talking about beaches, not Beech's.

 Big thumbs up



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2742 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Haha yes thanks Lymanm I saw that after I posted it. Thanks Yyz717.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

Hey, they had to cut somewhere in order to have a/c for their new Atlanta-Montreal service that starts up in a few months. Since they (Air Canada) are no longer going to have to serve these towns as part of the Canadian merger, why keep service there if the demand really isn't there? Look at Alaska for instance; many of these small isolated communities depend on not Alaska Airlines/Horizion, but on little operators (often times one man airlines) to provide air service in order to get supplies, medical care, and even to connect on to an Alaska Airlines flight. Someone will take up the slack, it just may take a little while to convince an airline to do it, but I think Transport Canada will have to subsidize whoever will serve these cities. Sort of like the U.S.'s Essential Air Service program does.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

AC is not Canada's national carrier per se. It is a publicly traded company with a profit mandate. All routes ultimately must pay their own way.

Marginal airports have know about the 2003 moratorium for 3 years and have had ample opportunity to market the flights to their local communities. Clearly, these local communities have spoken....and they have indicated they cannot support the service.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

It's unfortunate for the residents of those communities, but if there's sufficient demand, the canceled flights will be replaced in due course -- if not by a discount carrier or third-tier service, then by ground transport to the closest available airport.



User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

The Nfld. routes...well, I imagine Provincial AL can use their Saab 340s to good order now......


` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
User currently offlineCrj 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1816 times:

SRBMOD what are you talking about. First off the communitites that are losing service are not nor was there ever any intent to operate a CRJ there. YUL-ATL is a CRJ route.On another note, we have a few CRJs that are not being fully utilized right now as not enough pilots are qualified to fly them(should be rectified very soon).Third tier can use 1900ds into those places . much better than putting the Dash8 in. Transborder routes are doing quite well. Although I can't speak about MSP....BWI, PHL,CLE and other Jazz destinations are quite full consistently.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Crj 900,

My comment is based more on the fact that when a new city is served, usually there are aircraft type swaps on some routes, like say several flights that use CRJs to a certain city might lose a few CRJ flights and are replaced with other aircraft types.


User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1722 times:

It looks as if Provincial and Air Lab are already picking up the slack in NFLD/Labrador. Hopefully someone will come along to serve Yarmouth and Stephenville.

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