Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1831 times:
Anyone know how Air Canada is doing on it's YYZ-MSP route (Jazz a/c)? I flew it about three yrs. ago and the flight was pretty full but I haven't heard anything lately.
There is some strong competition from NW with MSP being their main hub for servicing Canada. I believe they currently serve 9 communities in Canada from MSP, more than any other NW hub (DTW serves 5 cities in Canada).
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VonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4624 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
"I believe there will be a transitional period for smaller communities," Mr. Collenette said. Although the government is "quite concerned" about the reductions, he believes other airlines will step in and fill the void.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 17292 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1661 times:
Hey, they had to cut somewhere in order to have a/c for their new Atlanta-Montreal service that starts up in a few months. Since they (Air Canada) are no longer going to have to serve these towns as part of the Canadian merger, why keep service there if the demand really isn't there? Look at Alaska for instance; many of these small isolated communities depend on not Alaska Airlines/Horizion, but on little operators (often times one man airlines) to provide air service in order to get supplies, medical care, and even to connect on to an Alaska Airlines flight. Someone will take up the slack, it just may take a little while to convince an airline to do it, but I think Transport Canada will have to subsidize whoever will serve these cities. Sort of like the U.S.'s Essential Air Service program does.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16125 posts, RR: 57 Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1637 times:
AC is not Canada's national carrier per se. It is a publicly traded company with a profit mandate. All routes ultimately must pay their own way.
Marginal airports have know about the 2003 moratorium for 3 years and have had ample opportunity to market the flights to their local communities. Clearly, these local communities have spoken....and they have indicated they cannot support the service.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Mcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1618 times:
It's unfortunate for the residents of those communities, but if there's sufficient demand, the canceled flights will be replaced in due course -- if not by a discount carrier or third-tier service, then by ground transport to the closest available airport.
Crj 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1568 times:
SRBMOD what are you talking about. First off the communitites that are losing service are not nor was there ever any intent to operate a CRJ there. YUL-ATL is a CRJ route.On another note, we have a few CRJs that are not being fully utilized right now as not enough pilots are qualified to fly them(should be rectified very soon).Third tier can use 1900ds into those places . much better than putting the Dash8 in. Transborder routes are doing quite well. Although I can't speak about MSP....BWI, PHL,CLE and other Jazz destinations are quite full consistently.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 17292 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
My comment is based more on the fact that when a new city is served, usually there are aircraft type swaps on some routes, like say several flights that use CRJs to a certain city might lose a few CRJ flights and are replaced with other aircraft types.