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User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 10
Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Evergreen is the right namefor this airline which uses veeeeeery old airplanes.

Is it a cargo airline? What does it transport?

Does it fly worldwide or only in the States?

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29788 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

It is pretty much a helicopter and heavy freight charter company based out of Mcminnville Oregon. The also run a greenhouse operation down there and do heavy aircraft maintaince and storage in Marana Arizona.

Evergreen has the only mail contract that is flown with Helicopters that I am aware of, that is up in Nome. They had bid and where awarded an essential air service contract to provide combi jet service to the Aleutian Islands but where not able to locate a suitable combi aircraft for the service to the contract got yanked.





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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2477 times:


Hi!

I also recall seeing Evergreen International charter flights to LIS in early 80's. They used to fly with DC-8-50's, 61's and 63's. NIce livery and nice memories from that time.
Regards


User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

There was always,(I don't know about now) a Evergreen 747 parked by the United or Korean Air or something hanger at JFK


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User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2470 times:

Here are some pics of this airline


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They all are really, really old airplanes.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2445 times:
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they used to fly equipment around the world for the CIA, in fact Pinal Air Park in Arizona, a huge airplane graveyard, is an ex-CIA base.

User currently offlineCopa737 From Panama, joined Jan 2002, 331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

As Clickhappy said, Evergreen is a fake, all their equipment is used by the CIA.


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In Panama City, They have a base with 3 Casa 212-200. They transport people between Central America and some South American countries.

Regards,

Copa737



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29788 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

I thought they where trying to sell off those CASA's


They used to keep one up here in Alaska working on the slope but I think they got out of that buisness.



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User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Evergreen Use to fly to Auckland New Zealand with 747-100F and 747-200F I have seen it a couple of times ...Their aircraft a pretty old ! They usually transport bulk freight ! Evergreen 747-100 I forgot the rego was in Die Hard 2 when at the end the bad guys escape on a Evergreen 747 the aircraft only contains green stripes minus the airlines name !

nzjet100


User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

I love hearing this CIA stuff  Smile

I use to be a G man  Smile


Evergreen was very instrumental in getting UPS off the ground (sorry for the pun  Smile Evergreen continues to do some charter work for UPS. They fly to different destinations around the globe but are based in the U.S.


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Evergreen also owns at least some portion of EVA Airlines based out of Taipei.
But yes, they are an enormous freight company, both aviation and otherwise.

Steve


User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

Another plane in the fleet is...
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I recently caught this aircraft on Flytecomm from MMV-ANC, with a stop in Sitka.

Jeff

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6277 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

A )Evergreen is not a CIA airline.
B) Evergreen does not own a part of EVA Air.

But it is true that MZJ was a CIA base between WWII and the early 1970s. It is also true that Evergreen operated most UPS flights until 1983 and that they fly very old airplanes.



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineBizJets From France, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Evergreen Aviation (USA) has no relation to the Evergreen Group/EVA Air (Taiwan). Evergreen (Taiwan) is an enourmous cargo and logistics company that owns part (or all, I'm not sure) of EVA.



BizJets  Smile


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

My bad! I thought that they were all part of the same Evergreen, especially since EVA seemed to always have such a high proportion of western pilots.

Steve


User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

The EVA Group from Taiwan originally wanted to name their airline Evergreen like their trucking and ship companies but the Evergreen Airlines name was already taken from the Evergreen based in the US. The companies from Taiwan and the US have no relation to each other except that in some places the ground handling for EVA Air is done by Evergreen Services from the US which is a company owned by the Evergreen company in Oregon.

User currently offlineRoadrunner165 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 873 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Hay L-188

I live in Nome In the summer and yes they have a helicopter that sits in this really old run down shack... I've only seen it fly a few times... They also have a DC-9 that fly's in every saturday with cargo for Nome and the surrounding communites


User currently offlineKAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Evergreen International is kind of like a big dysfunctional family, it's got MX, ground handling, charters, helicopters, an agricultural division, heavy maintenance and a rather large aircraft called the Spruce Goose...(its in the museum in McMinnville OR about 45min south of PDX)

Their 747 fleet is either leased out on deicated routes or on one-off charters (they ran a goat-roped relief charter into Kabul last winter) and a LOT of military charter work. And they have some of the oldest 747s in the world (really too cheap to buy a newer set...). Then there are the misc. mail contracts, DHL contracts, small package stuff with their fleet of DC-9s.

As for CIA connections, like any CIA front company there are no overt ties, although there is a lot of specualtion and rumors about their involvement with CIA front companies dating back to Air America.(I found some stuff awhile ago, but can;t find it now that implicated EZ ties to several CIA front operations) Their government ties are very strong, a good example is their work since 9/11 (rumor has it they dropped a lease (I think it was Qantas) operation to start taking military work).

And yes, no realtions to Evergreen (the shipping company) or EVA (although they do ground handling for EVA in a couple of places).

Just my 2 bits...
Tom



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9602 posts, RR: 69
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
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I have a couple of books that talk about the CIA/EZ relationship. Is it not true?

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6277 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Evergreen along with TWA, Pan Am, Continental, Southern Air Transport and on, did (do) indeed operate flights for the CIA. They also operate(d) for tour groups, the USAF and anyone that could pay the fee. This does not make any of them a "CIA" airline.

Steve



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

The same plane (N945F) flys Seattle - Ketchikan - Sitka - Juneau - Seattle every day, brings all of the UPS, and USPS mail to Southeast Alaska.


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