Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2606 times:
This was a question that my dad and I have been recently discussing, and we can't find a sure answer to. Can anyone tell me what the top ten largest airlines lines in the world are in order from largest to smallest. Thanks a ton, and looking foward to your responses.
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
I believe STT757's list is correct, if measured by the number of pax carried or fleet size. IMO an airline should be judged how big they are by the number of pax they carry annually and the fleet size. After all, airlines are all about aircraft and the passengers they carry. (making money aswell obviously)
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
Previously in a thread with a similar line of thinking, I posted the figures released by Flight International in the annual review of airline profits (have I missed the 2002 edition? Probably and hopefully not).
However, the figures are pre 11 September 2001 and would appear to be irrelevant for current viewing.
The airline which has made the most profit since is Singapore Airlines Group, and the airline with the highest market capitalisation is Singapore Airlines.
With regards to passenger numbers, I would think it's either Delta Air Lines or American Airlines - Delta carried more passengers than American in August 2002.
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
RogueTrader is correct. RPKs are a good indicator of airline size, because they take into account the carrier's network as well as income.
Fleet size doesn't mean much -- airline status isn't measured by the number of aircraft they happen to use. After all, British European has more aircraft than Virgin Atlantic.
Neither does market capitalisation: how can airlines be reasonably compared based on the whims of the stock market? Capitalisation can soar or drop overnight and, at the end of the day, is only as accurate as share-traders' expectations. It's a bit like trying to value a painting.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2359 times:
Roguetrader: Damn the Singapore Dollar. It's being doing stuff lately.
While RPK is arguably the best form of measuring airline 'size' (I've never used it, I'll do some research now), I do not think what I said about fleet size and market capitalisation and profits should be dismissed indirectly as irrelevant.
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
What's up. Didn't you say in an earlier post today that none of the top 6 airlines had ordered the A380?
No, I said it in a post several days ago in response to a similar topic in response to you and Joni. Not only did I say that, I said that only 2 of the top 10 carriers ordered the A380 and that the 'major' European airlines are about half the size of US majors. I posted the same evidence that I'm posting here below - rank of world airlines, which for some reason I have to post here again for you to remember it.
Singapore_Air: RPKs need no currency conversion - maybe you should investigate what these are before you go too much further.
Rank Airline (000,000) in revenue passenger kilometers (RPKs)
DLLongIsland From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 35 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2147 times:
Plain and simple - lets measure base this on number of passengers carried (IE, the airline's popularity in the eyes of the fliers)... If judging that way, Delta is the largest airline. Lets not give them the short stick just cause they don't charge as much for a coach seat as AA or UA
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
when you say:
That info is not current.
If you are referring to my post, I will have to invite you to find RPKs over the last year by any reputable source that shows differently. I will withold personal insults and complaints about your youthful ability to find and understand airline statistics until you have a chance to respond.
RPKs are the world standard in ranking passenger airlines - it takes into account both number of passengers flown and how far they fly, it is the only way to level out the playing field and fairly judge as between short haul high frequency carriers and longhaul low frequency carriers.