Bwc1976 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 194 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1064 times:
Hi, I was wonder which of the smaller planes being used by airlines today (anything smaller than a DC-9, for example the CRJ, ERJ, ATR, BAe 146, Dash-8, etc.) have enough space in overheads and under the seats for normal-size carry-ons (the size that's allowed on DC-9's, 737's, and up), and which ones have you drop them off with a guy that puts them on right as you get on the plane? I've always heard stories of the latter, but from some of the photos I've seen, they seem to still have at least some overhead space. I'd be curious to try some of these little planes sometime, but want to be sure ahead of time what the policy will be. Also, which ones do or don't have seat width and pitch as good as a DC-9, 737, etc.?
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 30 Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1059 times:
Of all the planes mentioned the only one that has real overhead space is the Avro/Bae146. There are a few overheads onboard though that resemble the overheads of RJs and those are the bins under the wings. No RJ or even mainline small jet can come close to the space and comfort that the Mesaba Avros offer. Our Avros are the RJ85 model and can accomodate up to 100 passengers in a high density configuration. The a/c is a tad wider than the DC9 and is roughly as long as the 737-100 was. Due to scope limitations iwht the NW pilots our cabin has 69 seats, thus affording extra space and a FC cabin with 16 seats. The roomiest RJ in the sky and the only RJ with a REAL first class. So, unless you're onboard with 68 other passengers who have brought a months supply of luggage onboard with them (which is usual) you won't have to gate check your luggage on the Avro/BAE146.
BWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
AZJ- I looked at the website at the seat map of the Avro, and I was shocked. This is Northwest/Mesaba you're talking about, right. 19" width by 33" pitch!! That's about the same as first class on the DC-9s. I honestly was expecting to see 17"X31" that is so common on the DC-9s, but I see that you weren't exaggerating at all. Hopefully, in December I'll get my first ride on a BAe-146.
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 2872 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
I've always thought that the 146 offers the best Y seat in the sky. Better than any large jet!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 30 Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 995 times:
Why would I have any reason to exagerate? The Avro has the largest seat and most comfortable cabin in the entire NW fleet. The FC seats are even the largest in the fleet, being the same size as the 757 seats.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7161 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 997 times:
ACA's J41's are horrid! I hate flying on them. I love thier CRJ's though! No overhead,though.
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BWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 938 times:
AZJ- You wouldn't have any reason to exaggerate. I just didn't believe that there is a commuter plane out there that offers so much room.
Can anyone tell me how comfortable United Express' BAe 146s and CRJs are?
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7161 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 916 times:
ACA's CRJ's are very nice. 2 - 2 seating,but no overheads. There is a flight attendant and a lav.Service is beverage with beer,no liquor. The f/a sits in back of the cockpit door and faces rearward. They're very quiet and comfortable.
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ATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1361 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 888 times:
I would agree, Avro/146 I flew one last year from Dfw to Memphis last year and was shocked. Felt just like a mainline jet and those seats were impressive great Jetliner.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 30 Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 873 times:
Considering the fact that the Avro/146 is twice the size and weight of the typical RJ - the a/c shouldn't be considered an RJ - but a small mainline jet. Especially since it offeres ammenities that no toher small jet offers, except maybe the baby DC9.
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