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London-Auckland - Whats The Best Way Of Doing It?  
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11876 times:

I am planning to travel to New Zealand to see my Fiance's parents who have moved there this week, in March next year. I know all the ways of getting there, and i know about the prices roughly. I was just interested to see which airline you guys thought i should fly with, as there are about seven that I am sweriously considering. Please bear in mind that I haven't booked it yet, and any inside info given by you could very well influence my decision = I guess this is your chance to play travel agent!

Here are the main options I am loking at very seriously. I would like to know wht you guys think of their flight to Auckland, and any info about stuff like meals, entertainment, service, aircraft and possible equipment changes, and the actual flight to Auckland would be very welcome. I know I could just look it up in the Travel Report section, but I'd really like a consensus of opinion on it really.

1) Thai
Heathrow - Bangkok - Auckland

2) Singapore
Heathrow - Singapore - Auckland

3) Cathay Pacific
Heathrow - Hong Kong - Auckland

4) Air New Zealand
Heathrow - Los Angeles - Auckland

5) Air Canada
Heathrow - Vancouver - Auckland

6) Malaysian
Heathrow - Kuala Lumpur - Auckland

7) All Nippon Airlines
Heathrow - Tokyo Narita - Auckland

8) Japan Air Lines
Heathrow - Tokyo Narita -Auckland

9) Asiana
Frankfurt/Paris CDG - Incheon - Auckland

10) Korean Airlines
Heathrow - Seoul / Incheon - Auckland

11) Eva Air
Amsterdam - Taipei - Auckland

12) United Airlines
Heathrow - Los Angeles - Auckland


I know its a big list but i really cant decide between them, and I have a couple of restraining things. Firstly, my missus doesnt fancy Tokyo, or Korea at all. Ive tried telling her, but she isnt keen on Asian food and hates seafood particularly. This is why i'm curious about the meals on the flights you see. She quite fancies Hong Kong, but doesnt fancy Singapore, and the kicker is that i would like to have a couple of days stopover, and i will get cross and annoyed if she is whinging the whole time! Basically, when i've decided, i'll tell her and if she doesnt like it she doesnt have to come, but it would be nice to have her happy too - it makes everything soooooo much easier!!!!!

So what do you guys think? I know Singapore and Cathay are very good, i mean i know all about the airlines but not the actual flights you know?

Any help would be much appreciated!!!

Regards,

CHRIS


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
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User currently offlineB-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11854 times:

My advice would be to avoid the United States considering the hassle of extra security. ANA, JAL and Asiana don't continue on to Auckland so you would be looking at Air NZ from Japan and Korean from Korea if you chose those options.

Thai has a stopover in Sydney on the Bangkok-Auckland leg and Malaysian has a stopover in Brisbane on KL - Auckland. However, these two airlines offer the best in terms of economy class legroom on the Asian sectors, with MAS also having PTVs. I've always found service on MAS to be very good.

Between SIA and Cathay, I think Cathay might offer the best in terms of travel connections. They operate a 18-weekly service to London and a 10-weekly service to Auckland. Again, the service on Cathay is top-notch and its hub in Hong Kong can't be beaten, plus British Airways codeshares on its service to Auckland if frequent flier miles are of consideration. Singapore Airlines is also a very good airline, offering the same seat pitch in Economy although I hear that SIA's wisemen entertainment system is among, if not, the best.

Air Canada from YVR to AKL requires a change of aircraft in Honolulu to Air New Zealand. My personal choice would be definitely an Asian carrier, probably either CX or SQ on the basis of their non-stop flights to Auckland and their sterling service.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11844 times:

Thanks very much!

Whats the food like on Malaysian and Thai? How many of the Thai 744's have PTV's and the schedule shows the BKK-AUC flight to be operated by a 743; is this true or do i get one of their A333 or 772 equipment instead?

Anyone know?

What do Singapore fly from SIN-AUC?? A343?

What about MAS? What are they like? Is Kuala Lumpur nice?

I'm stuck!!!!!



CHRIS



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11814 times:

What about Korean? Are they as good as i've heard? Is Seoul nice for a stopover? Do Eva fly to Auckland?


Sorry lots of questions!!!!!!


CHRIS



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11811 times:

Without a doubt go via Hong Kong with Cathay and have at least 3 days stopover. It's a fantastic city, you and you're fiance will love it I can assure you.

I would go back right now if I could!

Rick.



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11803 times:

Yup Eva Flys to Auckland ....Taipei - Auckland - Taipei , operated by a 767-300

nzjet100


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11800 times:

My, your fiance is a fragile little flower, isn't she?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Assuming the missus has never been to Asia, and that she is likely to whinge about conditions and food during your stopover, then it might be best to go through Los Angeles with NZ. Their service is good, food on board is also good, and you may not encounter an Asian choice. Seat comfort is ok, legroom is standard, and there are no PTVs, which can be a drag on such a long flight.

If you do wish to fly through Asia with a stopover, then HKG and SIN will probably be easiest on your fiance - they're the two most westernised cities with plenty of non-Asian food. Seoul, Taipei, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok may be a bit harsh for a "sensitive" first-time traveller to Asia.

SQ and CX both have PTVs and they usually have a choice of two meals, sometimes three. One will be Asian and one will be a Western choice. Of course, there is a danger that the Western choice may be a seafood option, and unfortunately that is a risk you run. You might want to simply request a Western vegetarian meal just to eliminate the risk of your fiance having to eat either seafood or Asian food on any of the flights.

SQ operates 3x daily LHR-SIN vv and 1x daily SIN-AKL, all with 744s with PTVs. They also codeshare 1x daily with NZ on a 767. The NZ planes have no PTVs.



User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11759 times:

Going via the US and/or Canada has the advantage that you´ll have a bigger baggage allowance: 2 pieces of 32 kilos vs. 20 kilos on Asia flights.

Ever thought of doing this as a round the world trip?

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11717 times:

www.airline-network.co.uk are doing MAS specials to Aust/NZ until Sept11. You don't only get the option of staying in Kuala Lumpur (some info can be found at my website www.angelfire.com/on/khian) as MAS also allows all transit passengers to fly via any Malaysian city (yes including Borneo) and/or Singapore.

Service on MAS is great and food is fab...

check also www.malaysiaairlines.com.my


User currently offlineB-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11667 times:

Cathay Pacific usually offer three options in Economy class on long-haul sectors, plus self-service snack bars on London/Hong Kong definitely (I'm not sure about HKG/AKL).

Singapore operate 747-400s on SIN/AKL while Cathay usually use the A340.


User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11637 times:

BA/QF LHRLAXAKL. Easy! The LHRLAX is flown by BA and the LAXAKL is flown by QF which BA codeshare on.

User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11652 times:

I remember reading a travel guide, it says: If you're travelling to country A, then you might really consider the airline based in country A.

Basically Air NZ provides the unique New Zealand styles of service which will makes you feel like you're in NZ already when onboard ANZ's plane.

I think that's what the travel guide trying to suggest.

As a result, I suggest ANZ. One-stop same plane service, no transfer hassals or pressures if you're flying CX/SQ and connecting flight at HKG/SIN.



User currently offlineLanChileA340 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11646 times:

Hmmmm....what about considering a 'oneworld' fare? Then you could fly LHR-MAD on British Airways or Iberia and then MAD-SCL-AKL on LanChile. The overall Ecomony Class (Clase Turista) service and entertainment is exquisite on LanChile, with fine wines, ptv's, ergonomical seats, more space, delightful catering and plenty of room in the over-head compartments and cabin toilets. The Madrid to Santiago de Chile flight is nonstop and it connects just in good timing with the nonstop service from Santiago de Chile to Auckland (3 times a week), all of which on the comfortable and modern A340-313X.


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I think that this would make for a very interesting journey via Chile for a change, that would allow you to avoid U.S security hassles, and also the pain and annoyance of 'packed' flights with heavy loads between Europe and Asia.

Good Luck....
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11598 times:

While the service and food is very ordinary, Thai allows you to route through Bangkok, Brisbane and Sydney in either direction, allowing you to stop in all these places at no extre charge (bar departure taxes).

So that's probably the best option stopover wise. And they're often the cheapest.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5332 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11567 times:

EVA's AKL service is only 2x weekly but there are 2 NZ operated TPE-AKL flights aswell all on 767-300ER's!

Not talking from experience but I would take NZ, SQ or CX.
Korean also are fairly cheap usually and operate daily 747-400's through AKL.


User currently offlineAdol From Malaysia, joined Jul 2001, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11558 times:

Food on MH esp for LHR - KUL amongs the best. In Y you'll get 3 choice, western, asian, and vegetarian (please anyone correct me if I'm wrong). But not so sure for KUL - AKL sector.

User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11552 times:

With NZ you can fly somewhat more exotic routings,

Such as LHR-LAX-PPT-RAR-NAN-AKL

Lots of nice ol Pacific Islands you know  Smile

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11537 times:

I say your best bet and easiest is to keep it nice and simple... Air New Zealand, LHR - LAX - AKL. Great airline, and you get to see LAX!


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11518 times:

Singapore Airlines:

3X daily with Boeing 747-400 from LHR to SIN.
1X daily with Boeing 747-400 from SIN-AKL.

Singapore Airlines is a great choice. Ask her to spend a few days in Singapore. I promise you she'll love it. There are three meal choices on board SIA flights to and from Europe.

9V-SVA



9V-SVA | B772ER
User currently offlineBusinessflyer From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11536 times:

This is really such a long flight that you really want to minimise the amount of time in the air and avoid going via Japan or Korea. In addition, you really do need a PTV system otherwise 20 plus hours takes forever to go by! I would strongly say go via HK with Cathay or SG with SQ and forget all other options! HK is a far more exciting and interesting city than SG but I personally think that SQ has a better PTV system than CX for the long haul routes. So my recommendation would be to fly down with SQ via Singapore and stop over here for a night or two. SQ used to do these very good stop over deals for S$1 per night! I don't know whether they still to do that. And if your wife really is a first timer to Asia than she would probably prefer SG over HK. It is slightly easier for westerners! You won't find a Mon Kok in Singapore!

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11526 times:

I am at school so I can't do the normal product and services information you would expect on board Singapore Airlines.

Departing London Heathrow on 2 March 2003 at 1100 and arriving in SIN at 0750 on 3 March - SQ317 - Megatop 744
Departing Singapore on 3 March 2003 at 0900 and arriving in AKL at 1125 on 4 March - SQ285 - Megatop 744.

Departing Auckland on 29 March 2003 at 1415 and arriving in SIN at 0835 the same day - SQ286 - Megatop 744
Departing Singapore on 29 March 2003 at 2320 and arriving in LHR at 0630 on 30 March - SQ322 - Megatop 744.

Cost is for two people with tax included: GBP 1562.40.

Compared to Expedia.co.uk's cheapest fare with Malaysia Airlines at GPD1609.60, it's definately cheaper.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineJesseycy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 11476 times:

Well, with ur restirctions, basically, you don't have many choices left! You want a stopover, but isn't keen on Singapore, or Asian food. So the two most "westernised / modernised" city, with plenty of non-asian food is Singapore and Hong Kong. So of course, Hong Kong wins, since she doesn't fancy Singapore.

Of course, you may choose to go the other way, via LAX, with Air NZ! I wouldn't choose this though. As much as you might think that PTVs are useless, they are pretty handy for such a long flight. And CX and SQ would be good choices for that, unlike AirNZ, which doesn't offer PTVs.

If you're considering other Asian airlines, don't! Especially TG. I did LHR-AKL once on TG, it was horrible. Not the service, but the number of stops. You forgot to add SYD on your list. Others? They'll just be going out of your way....


User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 11441 times:

Singapore is much easier for Westerners to come to. You should persuade your wife to come down to Singapore. Hongkongers generally do not speak English that well, compared to Singaporeans.

Like I said, she will SURELY enjoy Singapore, even if the stopover is only for a day or two. If you finally come down here, you should visit the zoo and Orchard Road. You won't be disappointed.

9V-SVA



9V-SVA | B772ER
User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 11441 times:

You could consider....

LHR (VS) HKG (NZ) AKL - GBP833 return plus tax (booked thru NZ direct)

LHR (NZ) LAX (NZ) AKL - GBP833 return plus tax (booked thru NZ direct)

LHR (NZ) LAX (NZ) PPT/NAN/RAR/APW/TBU (take your pick of one) (NZ) AKL - GBP944 plus tax (booked thru NZ direct) - If you want you can add more islands at GBP45 per extra stop.

NZ's strengths are - legroom (34" in the 744 compared to 32" on most others) genuinely warm and friendly in-flight service, good food.
Weaknesses - no PTVs.

If you're going on NZ transitting through LAX, you won't need to collect and recheck your baggage, but will need to fill in customs/immigration forms to clear US authorities for the 2 hour transit.



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7190 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11434 times:

I would suggest flying Lan Chile via SCL, if she isn't keen on asia

25 Hoons90 : Asiana fly LHR-ICN too.. try them, You wont regret! Korean Air service is great too
26 Post contains links and images ARG-777 : Hi CHRISBA777ER, You should consider flying via Buenos Aires You can do LGW-MAD-EZE-AKL (MD88-B742-A342) As you plan to fly in March this is the best
27 Adh214 : Don't avoid the US just because of security. I travel in the US constantly (I live there) and have never had major problems with security. To board an
28 The777Man : I would suggest flying United Airlines LHR-LAX on a 777, stay a few days and then on to AKL again on another UA 777. Really nice plane with PTVs, frie
29 AirNewZealand : Hye Guys.. Like Many i have to say AirNZ!! They have the best service i could ever think of!! 100% New Zealand! Many people say that us Kiwis know Cus
30 Victor : korean air do have PTV ? noo... i flew hkg-icn-lax-icn-hkg. all the flights didn't have ptv. 773,772 and 744 all don't have ptv.
31 Post contains links and images Singapore_Air : You should fly with Singapore Airlines - OAG's Airline Of The Year. Connections are convenient and a stopover in Singapore is great - if you go to the
32 AirNewZealand : Yep they sure do have PTV's!! Confirmed from Korean Air themselves to me. They started installing them in March of last year! GOSH, they must be takin
33 ChrisEMA : I have just returned from a long 7 week trip through Australia, New Zealand and the US. US security is not a hassle at all - just perhaps a little inc
34 Post contains images Jesseycy : LOL! Sorry Singapore_Air, can't resist it. No offense, so don't mind me! But now I really understand why they call you the SQ press agent! CHRISBA777E
35 9V-SVA : Like I said, Singapore is easier to navigate about. Hong Kong is much bigger and it can be easy to get lost. Here in Singapore, you can't even get los
36 Ryanb741 : Hi Chris As long as your wife isn't a whinger about spicy food and hot weather then I would say Bangkok is the best destination for a stopover (closel
37 Post contains images 9V-SVC : I say go for Singapore Airlines . IF Emirates do fly to Auckland , i would have choosen that airline if i would you but too bad they dont . Why Singap
38 Qantas744 : I'm doing this flight next spring, around February probably. My routing is LHR-SIN-CNS-SYD-AKL-LAX-LAS-LHR. My circumstances are different in that I h
39 Singapore_Air : Qantas744: What a trip! If you could create a new thread I'll try and find you a nice price. Unfortunately, it seems to be a OneWorld trip but I'll se
40 Singapore_Air : Qantas744: Are you aware that your trip could cost £4100 per person in Economy?!
41 Ryanair!!! : Chris, my my... what a flurry of options you have! All the best in making your decisions and do keep us a.netters updated of the goings on! Once again
42 Qantas744 : I'd be interested to see if you could find a Star Alliance routing to POM-but as far as I can remember it's only QF that fly there, codesharing with A
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