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Unmarked, But Operating 737s In Las?  
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3812 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

When I was in LAS in June, I saw several 737-200s that were unmarked, but had a red stripe running down the fuselage (similar to Western's stripe, but with no "W"). They were active & parked at the terminal where the private jets & Scenic Airlines were. I heard the radio callsign, and it sounded like "JanEt" or something. They flew pretty regularly. When we drove up to the parking lot & asked the security guard about it, he said it was a charter company. Is this true?

Does anybody know what I'm talking about & who these 737s are operated by?

DeltaRules


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Something like this?


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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Are these the Area 51 planes for the government?

User currently offlineSk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

Could it be those mysterious flights to Area 51 in the desert?
Saw something about that on Discovery once.


User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

They go by the callsign "Janet" and used to fly numerous trip daily from BUR-PMD and BUR-Groom Lake back when the F-117 and Lockheed were in full swing at BUR airport. I'm not sure who currently operates these flights from LAS or where they fly them to but it is still a pretty secretive operation.

Jeff

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2745 times:
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I saw those 737's on a Discovey Channel documentary on area 51 aswell, they are probably used to transport Area 51 employees to Area 51. Very secretive indeed.




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User currently offlineExnonrev From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 621 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Do a search on "Janet". The EG&G birds have been discussed here many times. Most of them are USAF T-43s which have had the navigator training consoles stripped out and replaced with pax seats.

User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Technically speaking the planes are operated by EG&G Special Projects and are operated under contract to the US Government to shuttle employees from LAS to the Tonopah Test Range / Area 51.



User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7521 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

I just checked the fabulous http://www.fltyecomm.com and click'track a flight' typed in LAS,and I see that there are a bunch of departures from Tonopah. Airline is 'reserved' . I just love that sight.


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User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

I notice that in that picture, it appears that all of the window shades are closed. Is that a requirment on those area 51 flights?

User currently offlineSJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

......And here is more info if you're really interested:

http://www.dreamlandresort.com

Of course, there are pages on the "JANET" flights...
does anybody venture a guess what "JANET" stands for in Military parlance.....? Would it be safe to guess J-A-N might stand for "Joint-Air-Network......" to start...?

read some of the reports, they're really interesting-especially about the "Cammo-Dudes"...

 Big thumbs up


SJC Alien


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

>>>I notice that in that picture, it appears that all of the window shades are closed. Is that a requirment on those area 51 flights?

Not that I'm aware of. It could just as easily be to be to keep the aircraft cool. It's not as if Janet's passengers might "see" something, since they all have all sorts of clearances to be on the aircraft and headed to TNX to begin with...

Just my 2 cents...


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Before the 737's were acquired, DC-6B's were used for a very long time, DC-4's before...operated on behalf of the old AEC.

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9652 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2491 times:
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in those pictures the sun would have been shinning pretty bright into the cabin, I snapped those at like 7:30 and it was already in the 90s.

User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

These aircraft were operated in the '80's by Key Airlines. They started out flying 402's and suddenly got these 737's. ATA was doing a "scheduled" service from Nellis to Tonopah in the '90's. I don't know if the crew needed any special quals or security--I doubt it, though.

A couple of years ago, a TWA MD80 lost an engine and diverted to "the airport that doesn't exist". The hangers were all closed and the pax were disembarked and taken to an empty hanger where they were fed and "briefed" by an Air Force officer. The briefing basically was 'you know where you are and what this is, please don't take any pictures or your cameras will be confiscated'. As I remember, they were bussed back to SFO and the plane was fixed and flown out(although I never heard any of the details of the repairs or ferry flight).TC



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3812 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Ok, thanks for the responses. That's what my dad thought they were for (Area 51), but I wasn't sure. Are the planes ex-Western? That's what it looks like. Pretty interesting history about them! I'd never heard of the TW MD-80's problem & having to land there.

Tom in NO- That's one of the planes! There were about 7 of them while I was there.

DeltaRules



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User currently offline_Northwest_ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Yep for sure JANET aircraft. I just got back from Vegas 20 days ago and luckily I am going back in 17  Smile !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didnt get a chance to really "tour" the airport but I had a pretty good view from my room in the Luxor maybe I will stay at Mandalay Bay sometime so they will fly RIGHT past my window.. This time though I dont think I will see my air traffic from my room at the Bellagio.  Big grin  Big grin
Speaking of it, anyone else ever been in it? I went in to gamble a few bucks and walked around it is pretty nice, but believe it or not I liked the Luxor better even though the Bellagio is about $500.00 a night and really nice I just really love the inside and outside of the Luxor


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

I belive that EG&G is the current contractor operating those 737's and T-43's.


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User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

Back in the 70's they operated DC-6's (or maybe the were -7s). I was a canyon pilot and watched them come and go nearly every day.

I wonder if, when they're not flying out to Area 51, these are the airplanes that the government uses to spray chemtrails all over the country?  Innocent

Jetguy


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

I've always wondered, how do they file their flightplans?


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Do you mean what route do they fly?

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