MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 728 times:
jetsGo will start service to Ft. Lauderdale this winter pending government approval. Service would start probably in mid/late-November. jetsGo would offer weekend service from both Toronto and Montreal, becoming the fourth carrier in the Miami-Canada market, which includes American (YYZ, YUL), Air Canada (YYZ, YUL, YVR, YOW), and Air Transat (YYZ, YMX, YQB).
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 705 times:
Wow!! This is great to hear as for the new service to FLL by JetsGo. What is aircraft is this? And can you please somebody tell me what is goes on for now? Well, I do think about will be into the Terminal 4 south. Probably will able soon as for start service to Ft. Lauderdale. Well, goodnight!
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5966 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 687 times:
They should get ready for some fierce competition from AC, AT and AA. The most competition will come from it´s fellow Canadian carriers as they fly from FLL. They should have checked Orlando outn, maybe MCO will come in the future.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 683 times:
Call me skeptical, but JetsGo needs to figure out their core business (domestic low fare) before entering an already saturated market. Let's see how this pans out for them, but I'm not particularly optimistic.
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 681 times:
Yeah, we're do have Air Canada and Air Transat at my FLL airport by itself and also, that is another Air Canada were still service into MIA, FLL, PBI, MCO, TPA, by the florida cities as for itself. Not wait until they are made of pending government approval as for start new routes. Well, hope this is your helps. Thanks!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 674 times:
B747-437B, I'm sorry, but the Montreal-Miami market is hardly saturated. Currently at only fifteen weekly services, for a city with America's largest Quebecian population. This winter, however, there will be 31 weekly services, not including the possiblity of jetsGo or TS's new service between FLL and Quebec City (which has ran in the past as a charter service and is now a scheduled service; Saturdays with an A310).
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 666 times:
MAH4546 - I'm not specifically referring to the YUL-Florida route, but rather to the transborder market in general. The void exists in domestic Canada service and JetsGo can operate those very efficiently, but Michel LeBlanc is getting greedy again.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31107 posts, RR: 74 Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 649 times:
B747-437B, okay, I see your point and I agree with you. The FLL service will be weekend-only though, using planes that would otherwise usually be sitting on the ground because most of thier business oriented routes, as you know, have greatly reduced frequencies on weekends.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 638 times:
MAH - No argument about it from the fleet utility standpoint, but there are additional costs for transborder ops that become prohibitive unless they intend to use these as a precursor for a more complete entry into those markets. Thats what leads me to believe that this is just the first move into that strategy.
FLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4930 posts, RR: 53 Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 613 times:
In the days of QN, AC, 2T and TS.... from YMX/YUL (and YYZ does follow with exact same pattern).
There were something like 40 flights a week from Montreal to Fort Lauderdale alone. 2T was daily, TS was 4 weekly, AC was daily, and QN 4 times a week. Since then, TS only flies the route on a 3-4 weekly basis, plus AC at 2 daily. AC isnt low-fare so that doesnt even count. Air Columbus flies a few random charters but thats all its got.
If I were JetsGo, I would jump on the oppurtunity to serve the South Florida market within a heartbeat.
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 512 times:
You guys are missing the point here, Jetsgo is a low cost carrier, they never said that domestic was the only thing they are going to do, infact i think that this move is great, they will be taking one or two airplanes out of the domestic schedule, which drops off to next to nothing in the winter time, and putting them on the florida runs, which do well no matter how many carriers operate as long as they can keep costs down. They have always had their O/C issued for domestic and transboarder service. with a 4th airplane comming soon, they need to spread the planes out into areas where they can make money, and retract planes from the poorer winter markets, and we have already seen that start with the reduction in YVR and YWG service in the fall, and now with the introduction of the florida market, for those lowfare type passengers. I think if they can market it well they will do well down south, and if they could get their on-time performance up they could probably do an EWR like 2T did in the past...
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