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Weight Of Engines?  
User currently offlineR347216 From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 159 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 912 times:

Can anyone tell me about the weight of engines? I was just looking at a picture of a Trident, and it struck me that those engines must be very heavy. Same with DC10, Tristar,727 etc. Now,it seems that all lof the weight is at the rear end of the airplanes and it seems to me that there is no weight at the front to counterbalance the weight of the engines.So how does the airplane stay level without tipping backwards? Also, to show my ignorance in such matters, I see these truck size engines hanging under the wings of airplanes and (now I am ducking!) I have to wonder why the wings don't snap off from the weight. Can anyone tell me how much tonnage say, a 747 has got hanging under the wings? Guys, make allowances for this old sea dog's ignorance. I know ships but not airplanes. Thanks. Peter.

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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3695 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 811 times:
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In round figures:-

1. a JT9D on 747 weighs 10,000 Lbs

2. an RB211-524 weighs 14,000 Lbs installed (this includes the thrust rev).

3. a CF6-80 weighs 12,000 Lbs

This weight will be counter balanced by the fuselage in front of the wings. You will note on the examples you gave the wings are towards the rear of the a/c so the greater "overhang" ahead of them.


User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 810 times:

The CF6-50 engine, used on DC-10s, has a weight of 8225 pounds each. The planes are kept balanced by moving the wing farther back than it would be if there were no tail engine. This moves the center of lift rearward and keeps the plane in balance. While the DC-10 wing is set a little farther back than it would be, this is most evident on planes like the 727 and the MD-80, on which all of the engines are tail mounted. On these aircraft, the wings are set back quite noticably.


User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 796 times:

"Small Block" JT8's weigh about 3800 lbs "naked" (w/o T/R or inlet cowl) IIRC. CFM56-2 or 3 about 4700 lbs.

User currently offlineBigGiraffe From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 794 times:

What is neat about wing engines is they actually help keep the wing on the airplane. The lift comes from the wings and they always want to bend up. With the weight of the engines and fuel holding them down, you don't need as much structure to keep them sticking out where they are supposed to be.

And thank you for your question -- I hadn't actually stopped to wonder how much the engines weigh. Say, does anyone know the weight of those new 90,000 lb thrust type engines they use on the 777?


User currently offlineFuturepilot2b From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 770 times:

On a rear mounted jet, wings are moved back. If it is extended, the plugs are usually installed in front of the wing to counterbalance the weight of the engines. The engines actually help the wing balance while in flight because engine and fuel counteract lift that is generated and the wing wanting to move up.

User currently offlineR347216 From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 758 times:

Those numbers are astonishing to me. One engine alone weighing 10,000lbs. Thats 5 TONS!!!! Times 4. That means a 747 has got 20 TONS hanging under the wings. Wonders never cease. Many thanks guys, very informative. Peter.

User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 750 times:


Hi Guys,

The CRJ-200 (twin rear-mounted engines) is actually nose heavy, and requires about 200 kg's (440 pounds) of additional weight behind the wings to keep the aircraft in trim.This causes problem for Load Control when passengers request to sit at the front of the aircraft (which they often do when they notice they are empty).

Regards,
B727-200.


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