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ETOPS- Which Countries Need It Most?  
User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1188 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

It seems to me that ETOPS regulations are not uniformly important across the globe. American, Australian and Far East Asian Airlines that cross the Pacific I think need them most, European Airlines much less, and Middle Eastern airlines the least.

Is this true? And has this affected the way airlines have ordered aircraft?

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User currently offlineMr AirNz From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 976 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

Samoa, New Zealand, Australia, Fjii, Tahiti, Hawaii etc. The 'islands need etops the most in my opinon.

User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1078 times:

Australia is the only country in the world where you need ETOPS classification to fly some domestic sectors. For example, the direct flight route between MEL-PER crosses the "Great Australian Bight", which has areas that are about 90-120 min from the nearest alternate airport (I do not know the exact rating required). The alternative is to fly around the coast, which adds time, cost and would actually cause range problems on some narrow-body aircraft.

This also means that you have the decision of how many of your domestic fleet do you configure to fly this sector. ETOPS classification is expensive, and if you throw in stuff like life rafts (cost of equipment, plus the weight it adds to the aircraft), then your costs will spiral upwards. MEL-PER itself is a very profitable sector for Australian domestic carriers, but those aircraft will need to fly on shorter sectors as well.

I also heard that to fly PER-DRW you need ETOPS classification, but I am not sure about this claim.


User currently offlineQANTAS_767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1071 times:

When i flew to Perth we flew over Adelaide.


User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Australia is the only country in the world where you need ETOPS classification

What about Russia?...

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