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User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Hello, first post here for me

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the CX cadet program... has anyone received an interview or gone through their training process? What can I expect from going throught the screening process?

Lastly, and more importantly, I don't want to step on any toes during this application process, are CX pilots still upset at management from what has happened last year? How do CX pilots now view the new recruits that are upcoming through the cadet program?

Thanks very much in advance,
Edward - vancouver, BC

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User currently offlineRai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

I think there are three qualifications:

1. HK resident status

2. College degree

3. Perfect vision

I was seriously looking into it right after college, but I fail on numbers 1 and 3.

Were you accepted into the program? If so, very lucky you!


User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

My vision is not perfect, but from what I understand it doesn't need to be. Or does it?

My parents are born in HK so under article 24 sections (1), (2) and (3) i qualify to have permanent resident status.

As for the education, i have a B.Sc. and a diploma in engineering so I'm hoping to apply once i get my PPL. There have been a handful of people that have trained at my airport in vancouver that have gone through the program who are now cruise pilots for CX.

There is apparently a book written by a CX captain about what the company looks for during their hiring process, does anyone know what it is? Thanks for reading


User currently offlineCXJoe From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2001, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

some cadets wear glasses so it's a case-by-case situation. a number of cadets do not hold a degree.

that book about interviews with Cathay is meant for direct entries so it's not essential reading.

one book you should read and attempt to understand (if you have no previous experience) is by Davies.

lastly the recruitment ban at Cathay excludes cadets.


User currently offlineCXJoe From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2001, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

put the book name in brackets and it didn't show, sorry.

the book is Handling The Big Jets by D.P. Davies. there should also be a few books you can have a flick through in the aero section of your uni library.


User currently offlineSOHK From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

One question about this program. If you is unsucessful in going through all the interviews, can you apply again?
Say, if one apply before going to University and is unsucessful, can he or she try again after they complete a degree?

SOHK


User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

SOHK, i don't see why not... i think they'd see your interest in the program from a re-application. Is that what you're going through right now?

User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Edwardle: One of our members here, "Cx_flyboy" went through the cadet program and currently flies the 747. You may want to talk to him.

-FSP


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747.


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

FSP, i tried emailing him, but i guess he's busy *shrug*


User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Yes the labour problems still exist at CX, and the cadet program, while aimed at getting "local" talent into the company a majority of entrants are considered to be "poor" pilots due to there limited experiance, and are not looked upon very highly by those who are hired off the street. Expect to be a cruise pilot for a lot longer then the manditory 2/3 years before you get considered for an F/O position..


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

CX_flyboy did flew the 744 as S/O, and is now flying the 777 as F/O. I know him personally, so I can verify that.

'949


User currently offlineSOHK From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

Yes, I still have one year of secondary school. And I'm not sure what my chance will be if I apply when I finish secondary school. But if I can apply twice, it wouldn't hurt to try it next year.

SOHK


User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

SOHK, i just got this email from cathay's cadet program... sounds like u can just keep applying till the cows come home

Dear Mr Lee,

We are pleased to inform you that we accept application all year round. Should you need to find out more information, you can visit our website on www.cathaypacific.com

Thank you for your interest in the Cadet Pilot Programme.

Kind regards,
Belinda Chan
Flight Crew Recruitment Specialist (Cadet Pilot)


User currently offlineCXJoe From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2001, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, Slawko:

The length of time cadets spend as an SO ranges from four years to a year and a half. Yes, it's generally longer than what the direct entries have to go through but I don't think the average cadet wannabe is in a position to choose whether to apply to the cadet programme or as a direct entry.

As for the number of times you can apply, do it as many times as you want to but generally give it a year before your next attempt as you'd need time to figure out what it is that they're not happy with and do something about it!


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

N949WP is right, Cx_flyboy used to be S/O on the 744 but now is a Junior F/O on the 772 and 773.

Singapore_Air, why did you say "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747. " ? Did you not think he was telling the truth when he said he flew the 744 before?

Trevor



People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
User currently offlineSOHK From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Okay, thanks,

Edwardle, did you just e-mailed CX or did you write to CX? Becuase I also need to ask them about education qualifications obtained overseas comparing to the Education standards in HK.

SOHK


User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

SOHK,

I don't think you have to worry about your overseas education qualifications, as long as your school is a legitimate institution, though I think you pretty much must have a Bachelor's degree to start out with nowadays.

'949


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6582 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Edwardle,

I didn't get an e-mail from you, unless I accidentally deleted it thinking it was one of the hundres of junk mails I get!!! Sorry.
Send me an e-mail and I will try to reply in the next few days when I have a day off.

CX flyboy.

Singapore_air,

What makes you think I don't fly?


User currently offlineEdwardle From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

CX flyboy, i emailed you again, did you get it?


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

"Did you not think he was telling the truth when he said he flew the 744 before?"

I said, "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747." Is that past or present tense? Voila my dear.

"What makes you think I don't fly?"

What makes you say I didn't think you fly? I said, "I don't think CX Flyboy flies anything like the 747." One difference as you know is that the 747 has four engines while the 777 has two. Big difference.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6582 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

The 777 and 744 are both wide-bodied jets made by the same manufacturer and come with 3 engine choices, in each case, one from Rolls, one from Pratt&Whitney, and one from GE. In the case of the 773 both have very similar seating capacities and are both capable of long-haul flights and some airlines are choosing to buy one over the other, indicating they do compete for similar markets. Both have very similar cockpit layouts and any pilot of either could step into the other and fly the thing without any previous training. In that respect, NOT a big difference.

User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

Singapore_Air, from the style you wrote it seemed you doubted Cx_flyboy was a pilot. I know it may niot be true, but that's what your post read to me.

Besides, from what CX_flyboy has said, the two aircraft are relativley similar!

Trevor



People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
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