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Delta 767-300 Or Co 757-200 Internationally  
User currently offlineEire24 From Ireland, joined Nov 2001, 17 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

Hey, I was just wondering if anyone has flown on Delta's 767-300 or Continental's 757-200 Internationally.

I'm booking a flight from Cincinnati to Dublin, Ireland in December and those are my planes choices. I assume that neither one offer's PTV on these planes, any one know otherwise? Plus . . do you think there's a huge difference in comfort etc., between flying a 767 or 757 on an 8 hour flight.

Thanks for any input.

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User currently offlineDutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7380 times:

The 767-300 is 2-3-2 so you are never more then one seat away from an isle. The 757 is 3-3 so if you sit at a window, going to the restroom is a problem.
Personally, I prefer Delta's service above Continental's, but that is just a matter of opinion. If you fly Delta, try to get in BusinessElite. It is fabulous.


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7329 times:

A 757 for 8 hours would be torture (especially in coach). Go for the widebody.

User currently offlineBhmal From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 140 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7252 times:

Back in June I flew CO's 757 from Houston to Lima, Peru. The flight was 6 hours going and 6.5 on the return. The return was a red-eye and I mostly catnapped and it wasn't too bad. Going was an aisle seat and there were two meal services and it wasn't too bad. I do think you have more room to stand up and walk around a bit in the 767 as I get really tired of sitting for so long. Everyone was wanting to stand up and move around in the 757 but the room was limited due to the single aisle and smaller plane. I really think CO service is great especially internationally.

Enjoy your flight whoever you choose!


User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7232 times:

I'd take the 757 flight. My feeling is that seat comfort is much more important than whether it's a widebody or narrowbody. Delta is not known for their comfortable seating.

User currently offlineErikr From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

I flew Delta 767-300 from JFK to ATH and back in 1999. I was upgraded to Business Elite, which was truly great. The food kept coming and the seats were quite comfortable.

On the way back, I was in the last row in coach (as well as recovering from food poisoning - not Delta's fault!), and still remember being comfortable. The FAs were passing out free booze (which I avoided in my state) and seemed quite friendly. The 10 hour flight seemed to pass quickly. I would recommend the Delta flight.

While I haven't flown CO internationally, they are now charging for all alcoholic drink service. While they claim it is to make dinner service better, it is yet one less perk.

In my opinion, there is truly something to be said about flying a wide body internationally. I would take Delta.

-Erik


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7066 times:

Take Continental. I flew a CO 757 from EWR-IAH, and the flight was great. Economy had ample space, and CO's international service is superb. Flew them to Paris last Christmas, and the cabin and meal service was great. Delta's 763's have almost no room in them. It's like a cattle car. Service isn't too bad, but the room sucks. I flew on one of their 763's this past July from ATL-CVG. The flight was only an hour long, but I was ready to scream after it was over, as the seats were so cramped!

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7040 times:

I've flown on CO's international-configuration 757 in BusinessFirst. I think First had PTV's, don't know about coach. Although I think CO's service is tops, I suppose I would have to weigh the pros and cons of flying a 757 in coach for 8 hours (if you know you're definitely flying coach). Anyway, CO's international 757's have 16 first class seats vs. 20 for domestic. The cabin was awesome and I wouldn't have any trouble flying in BusinessFirst for 8 hours on a '57.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7018 times:

There is no difference between a widebody and narrowbody on long haul unless you plan to spend the flight training for the London Marathon.

Go for the narrowbody every time, here's a brilliant reason why: less people at baggage claim and immigration.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7001 times:

Delta has a better service product than CO.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16890 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6985 times:

If you fly DL you have to go through ATL, CO you go through EWR. I think EWR is the most direct and quickest route.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 6971 times:

Actually, DL would probably be connecting in JFK. EWR has less delays, and will be an easier connection, as the CO terminal just underwent a major renovtion.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7801 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 6972 times:

Plus it is more like 6 and a half hours from Newark to Dublin. So it is no longer than a transcon flight. Plus I found the inflight service on Continental to be better than most. You'll get a full meal plus a snack prior to arrival. However there are no PTVs on the 757, but it has the flip downs LCDs instead of the TV monitors over the aisle.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6924 times:

In Coach, Continental's service is hands-down better than Delta's. I would take a 757 in an instant over a 763, the meals, crews, and amenities are generally a cut above Delta's. Up front, the two product are quite comparable, and flying in either one is a treat. However, the DL 767 BE seat width is quite narrow (18.5"), as compared to CO which has 21"/22" seat width standard on all BF seats. I really like the "private cabin" feeling of the 757 in BF, but since you make no mention of upgrading to a premium product, I will refrain from going into too much detail on on those products.

Either choice you can't go wrong with, I rate Delta as a fairly distant second to Continental for US carriers intercontinental products. AA and UA get good legroom and food, but have crummy IFE's and/or crews. US has a great IFE and seat configuration (A330 ONLY, 767 is poor IMO), but the crews can be bad at times. NW has poor legroom and IFE, but I have found their food to be OK sometimes, and every now and then I get a great crew. DL has poor legroom and seats, poor IFE, but usually good crews and decent meals. I find CO to be as close as you can get to the total package, fair legroom (767, 777 and 757 can be cramped in certain rows and ships), great IFE (except for 757, which is only decent), comfortable seats, good food, and of course, good crews 9 times out of 10.


User currently offlineWestjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6913 times:

Fly the Delta 767-300. They operate out of the old Pan Am terminal at JFK which is good news becasue its beautiful and historic. Also widebodies are so much better long haul. The newer Delta 767-300's are very nice and so are most of the old ones. FLY DELTA!


Canadian. RIP 1999
User currently offlineLubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6910 times:

there's something about a widebody plane..i don't feel the love. and i love the 757 so i would definitely give it a shot. some of the best service i've ever had on a flight was a CO 752 (EWR-PBI) even post 911

User currently offlineCalpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 999 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

Fly CO, I need to keep my job.

Plus to guy (757) who thinks DL is better than CO, how many times have you compared the two airlines?


User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6871 times:

To offset Calpilot (no offense, man)

Fly Delta; I need to keep my job  Smile


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6857 times:

I'd go with the 767. As others have pointed out, that way, with a window seat, you only have to get over one person to get out.

That said, as much as I love the window, for longer flights the aisle seats are your friends (if you like to get up all the time like I end up doing). ANd if you take the centerline aisle seats, you've always got the best chance (especially if you are an elite FF) of ending up with the center seat being empty (after all, few people want the middle seat, and if only 1 in 7 seats is a middle seat...well, you see the odds).

Steve


User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

Ah, gotta love how people come out of the woodwork and boldly state their opinions without actually checking to see if they're true.

I suppose it's fun to think that Continental has "better legroom" or "more pitch" than Delta, but unfortunately, when it comes time to see if that's actually the case, you guys will be disappointed.

Continental offers predominant 31 inch pitch in coach on the 757. Delta offers predominant 32 inch pitch on the 767-300ER.

Give me the widebody anyday. I don't know about everybody else around here, but on a long flight, I prefer the bigger airplane and the one with more room. The 767 has large aft galleys and door areas and that means more areas to stand up and stretch during the flight.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16890 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

"Actually, DL would probably be connecting in JFK"

Actually DL dropped both JFK-DUB and JFK-SNN last year, they no longer serve Ireland from NY.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6800 times:

I assume you haven't made any firm travel plans yet.
Why not try Aer Lingus? (you're going to Ireland after all)
It is a OneWorld partner and you can earn miles in AA, BA,
QF and several other frequent flyer programs.

Aer Lingus flies from ORD, BOS, and JFK to Dublin, using
Airbus 330s. (2-4-2 config.) There are a lot more seats,
compared to 767s and 757s. You have a better chance of
sitting next to an empty seat. For theri A330 seating
chart, click here:
http://www.flyaerlingus.com/images/seat_map_a330_300_24j.jpg

In additoin, Aer Lingus usually have lower fares than US
carriers, especially during winter months.

Last but not least: currently Air France seems to have the lowest fare between CVG and DUB... not sure why... If you don't mind connecting in Paris. With AF, you can still earn Delta miles...

Hope this helps...  Smile


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

I would go on the 757, you can always get to fly a 767 internationally, but that would be interesting to go on something smaller like the 757.

-Dmitry


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6731 times:

It would be nice if someone could get a CO 757 BusinessFirst pic in the database.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineDutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6722 times:

I fail to understand how somebody would prefer flying transatlantic in a single isle plane. That really sucks!

25 Afitch7881 : CO opperates the 767-400 from EWR-CLE, so in that case you got to go with CO. I flew BOS-EWR-DUB on CO in May and the service, food, and seats were gr
26 Afitch7881 : Sorry, I ment CO opperates the 764 from EWR-DUB
27 Post contains links and images Rmenon : I fail to understand how somebody would prefer flying transatlantic in a single isle plane. That really sucks! View Large View MediumPhoto © Jeff
28 IAH_EWR : jhooper...As for the 757 BF cabin pic, the 757 BF seats are close to, if not exactly identical to the old 777 BF seats as well as the current 767 BF s
29 Delta15 : Ive flown continental ewr-sfo on a 757, and was so happy to get off the plane. Even though I had a window seat, the flight was miserable cause both of
30 Mf3864 : Aer Lingus to Dublin non-stop from Boston is a good flight. The seats are roomy in economy, (meaning my knees didnt have to be pried out of the seatba
31 AASTEW : As a flight attendant, I've noticed passengers prefer to fly on widebodies of course. The 757 flying on transcontinental or transatlantic routes can b
32 Mf3864 : Here's how the airlines solve the single-aisle issue... Take out a row of seats. A 757/737/A319/320 becomes 3+2, with enough room in the aisle for the
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