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Lufthansa Getting 2 X A343 And 5 X A332 On Lease.  
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 2766 times:

047 A340-311 OO-SCY
051 A340-312 OO-SCZ
305 A330-223 HB-IQL
308 A330-223 HB-IQM
312 A330-223 HB-IQN
322 A330-223 OO-SFT
324 A330-223 OO-SFU

The above aircraft will be leased to Lufthansa until its just ordered 10 x A333 are delivered.

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User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

So, when will the first leased LH A330 appear then ?

User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

This is a good question, which nobody seem to be able to answer (although this is the Xth thread about this topic).

I must say, as much as I like LH, their public relations department for customers (non-journalists) is close to non-exsistant.


User currently offlineTouchdown99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

January 2003, as it appears

User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

What routes will these be flying on? Thin north atlantic from FRA and MUC or any chance for HAM and TXL of getting a transcon flight?

Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

I thought theyre just getting the A330-300.

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User currently offlinePothiabs From United States of America, joined May 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Ever considered the possibility that LH is urgently preparing to replace the UAL-flights between the US and FRA/MUC ?
Their Alliance partner is heading straight to bankruptcy.

User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 2242 times:


I don't think so. LH urgently needs the planes to cope with the demand on all long-haul routes. I have checked availablity on LH's longhaul flights out of MUC and they are quite full usually, often Y and F, or Y and C are sold out. I also don't think that UA will cease operation THAT quickly, and if, I see no reason why LH shouldn't be able to buy ex-UA planes to take over the ex-UA routes

They just BOUGHT 10 A333 from Airbus, delivery between January 2004 and November 2005 it seems. However, LH needs capacity NOW. So they decided to get planes which can be integrated into the fleet quickly. The A340 won't be any problem at all, the A330 have PW4000 engines (I don't know about LH Technik's capability to maintain PW4000 engines, but OS will gladly help them out, for a small fee  Big thumbs up ).

As I mentioned in another thread, typical A330 routes might (will be):
FRA-AUH (4 times a week) A340 1 stop
FRA-ADD (4 times) A340 1 stop
FRA-ASB (3 times) A313 maybe the A330 is too big
FRA-ASM (6 times) A340 1 stop
FRA-BLR (3 times) A340
FRA-DMM (3 times) A340 1 stop
FRA-DXB (daily) A340
FRA-CAI (twice daily) A340
FRA-KRT (4 times) A340 1 stop
FRA-KWI (3 times) A340
FRA-MCT (3 times) A340 1 stop
FRA-THR (daily) A340
FRA-TLV (twice daily) A340
MUC-DXB (daily) A340 starting this winter
MUC-TLV (3 times) A32S / A340 in winter usually

Has anyone ever spotted one of the mentioned planes in FRA or HAM? How long would it take to refit these planes with an LH outfit and cabin?

I hope to see the one or other A330 in MUC too, maybe on the DXB runs


User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2753 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Looking at the current situation I guess it wasn't the right decision to withdraw the 747-200 fleet so quickly...

Has there been a statement on the A330's and A340's from Lufthansa somewhere? I know that they don't care too much about keeping the "Freaks" (As I am one) up to date about fleet plans.


User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

But does LH will keep A300/600 for European routes like ATH,CDG,LHR... or the plan to use some A330/300 also on this European routes??

User currently offlineTouchdown99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

@ Airblue

LH has just bought an additional A300-600 (ex Emirates), bringing the fleet to 15. Obviously they have no plans to replace the A300s in the near future - and there is no need to, they are not exactly old and fit very well into the network.However, the A330-200s leased now will give LH a good opportunity to evaluate the type and to assess if it is really unsuitable as a A300-600 replacement because of its weigth.

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

Will LH change the livery when new 346's and 333 arrive ?

There was a rumor some time ago ...

User currently offlineTadex From Vatican City, joined Sep 2002, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

SailorOrion: The planned flights MUC-DXB v.v. to be operated by LH with A343 starting this winter, are no longer up to date. They have been dropped a few weeks ago.

User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1455 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

here are the Aircrafts LH will geinthe near future.
10 CRJ-700 (in 2003)
1 A300-600 (from EK in 3/03)
5 A330-200 (ex SN/SR 1Q 2003)
2 A340-300 (ex SN/SR 1Q 2003)
10 A330-300 (1Q 2003 to 4Q 2004)
10 A340-600 (from 3Q 2003)
15 A380-800

The B742 will remain for another 15 month in service. They started 3 month ago and planned to use them 18 month.
The A300 will remain in the fleet for a couple of years and be used on high load innner german and european routes. Don't know if the A310 or 300 will serve some GUS states. The A330 are only for long hauls because LH still needs 10 Long hauler to fullfill their winter schedule!

regards Björn

User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Yes, LH has cancelled the plans to fly MUC-DXB this winter. It may have to do with the fact that FRA-DXB will become a B744 service, and that EK wants to fly MUC-DXB double daily, which is more than enough capacity in my opinion.

Does anybody know anything about the whereabouts of the leased planes?

Björn, according to LH's page, the A333 will be delivered from Q1 2004 to Q4 2005 ?!? Is that outdated? I would not say that the A380 will join the fleet in the near future, will they?  Smile


User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1455 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Sorry SailorOrion my mistake. You are right about the A333!

regards Bjoern

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