Bigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 3871 times:
This was mentioned in Flight International's report on KAL (Korean Air)'s Aerospace department.
Boeing has sent back 12 KAL Aerospace department personnel because Boeing has failed to sign Singapore Airlines as the launch customer for B747-400XQLR.
Boeing is also delaying the 747 project as well. The article didn't mention Cathay Pacific, so I suppose CX is not going to sign any LoI for 744XQLR launch customer.
Sinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1533 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
I don't understand the title of the post. Your topic says SIA, but your information says KAL?
Flight International is known for posting rumors. Remember the "Fed Ex weeks from ordering BC-17" artical. I think that was in mid 2001. There a whole bunch.
Bigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 3665 times:
I don't understand the title of the post. Your topic says SIA, but your information says KAL?
It's related to KAL because KAL Aerospace department is helping Boeing to launch the 744XQLR. These people were sent back because Boeing failed to sign Singapore Airlines as the launch customer.
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4530 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3627 times:
Boeing's website only mentions 3 744's: 744, 744ER, 744QLR. IGW means increased gross weight. The 744ER is just a 744 with an increased gross weight, allowing it to carry more fuel to fly further. Thus, the 744IGW is just another name for the 744ER. Just like the 777-200IGW is the 777-200ER.
Tsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 16 Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 3584 times:
Daryl..
VH-OJU/S/T have the slightly uprated engines, or rather the slightly improved versions of the RB211-524G/H-T that allows a slightly higher MTOW then the standard RB211-524G that is in the rest of the QF fleet.
BA also has an uprated RB211, in the version of the RB211-524H2 and H3, while the original is an RB211-524H.
I dont think they would be considered an IGW though literally they are. They are basically the same aircraft inside out, all identical, except with higher powered engines thats all.
I'm sorry I dont have the exact power figures for them.
Hkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 3523 times:
Tsentsan,
Thank you, I understand but I'm sure at one time they called them IGW's. I'm getting confused with all these different versions and extra letters they are sticking on the end !!
Tsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 16 Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
Daryl -
No worries, you should see what people say about SIA 777s... its getting so irritating that people for calling the SRx SQx as ER versions....... extremely irritating, even after numerous explanations.
Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 23 Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 13 hours ago) and read 3447 times:
How does one define a B777 as an ER version? If I'm not wrong the SQ, SR and SV have center fuel tanks which allows them to take on about 135 tons of fuel... not ER?
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 3409 times:
When will Boeing get their act together and move away from heating the 744 up in the microwave to see if anything changes and then offer it as a new 747. If they want to keep the 747 the queen of the skies they need to redesign the -400 and not only add a feature here and there. They havn't learned from the 743 and 764 at all... Either do a complete job or don't do it at all..
Max
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 3241 times:
United Airline,
The 747X / 747X Stretch failed because they couldn't compete with the 388. Apparently Boeing would need to update the 747 more comprehensively, or design an all-new plane. Of course accroding to their market forecasts, there is no market to justify an all-new plane so they're unlikely to do that.
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
Sure we now the reason Sigapore_Air,
SIA decided that the aircraft did not fit in their fleet or that they had a much better alternative. It's that simple.
CaptainAD From United States of America, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 3108 times:
Thank you for your post Manni... without you we may have never been able to figure out that SIA made the decision because "the aircraft did not fit in their fleet or that they had a much better alternative." Very insightful
Navion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 987 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
Joni, Well put. Boeing does feel the market is somewhat limited. If Boeing offers something to compete with the A388, both will lose money. The A388's sold so far have been at fire sale rates (a fact discussed openly in FI and AW&ST) so Airbus really has to sell about 500-600 more of these beasts at retail prices to justify the $12-$16 billion investment. There is no room for Boeing to try to make a VLA to compete with Airbus.
Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 23 Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2905 times:
It's not necessary to replace a B747 with a B747
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25 Sllevin: Manni, I believe that 250-300 is the current official breakeven number right now. However, historically, that number always rises. And it has often ri
26 Bigo747: United Airline: Please read the first message I put about where I get this article. It's Sep 10-16, 2002 edition.
27 Navion: Manni, The first 100 are being sold for a hell of a lot less than "list" prices. The question you need to ask yourself is "How much money needs to be
28 SailorOrion: Boeing predicts a market for 900 units of 747 or larger in size in the next 20 years. Navion, I agree with your analysis, but I think of a number of a
29 9V-SVC: I am not surprise with SQ's decisions especially with lack of commitment from other airlines as well . I would love to see SQ buying both A345 and B74
30 Joni: Airbus is also using their cashflow to pay for A380 development, and withdrawing credits as they're needed, i.e. not all up front. Also, the first 50
31 Manni: Sllevin, Thanks for cnfirming that it's the OFFICIAL number. Navion, I'm in no position to make a forecast about the possible number of A380's that ha
32 United Airline: I am not surprise with SQ's decisions especially with lack of commitment from other airlines as well . I would love to see SQ buying both A345 and B74
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