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Hurricane Isadore-MSY-Airline Operations  
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Guys,

I've got a request for the airline dispatch/ops people that populate the forums:

We at MSY are expecting Hurricane Isadore to make landfall south of us (along the Louisiana coastline) sometime early on Thursday.

The airlines will, no doubt, shut down operations to/from MSY sometime late on Wednesday (we've heard that already from SW and US). The station managers here are good about letting us know their individual situations.

My request is that if any of the airline dispatch/ops types have any other info regarding their ops in and out of MSY from now through Thursday or so to put them on this thread. I'll be in MSY's Emergency Operating Center full-time beginning Wednesday AM till this thing has passed.

We appreciate all your assistance, and your prayers.

Tom in NO (at MSY)

PS to Stephen at MSY and Mdsmith11: let me know if you guys are going to be here for the duration.


"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1471 times:

Tom, I feel the same way you do. I hope it isn't bad.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1456 times:

You pretty much know what I do...at this point.

Just an FYI, but the thing to watch as far as air carrier ops are the crosswind limits. Dry, it's 30 knots, wet it's 10 knots, for the 737 anyways...

Depending upon where the eye is relative to MSY, you could run into some interesting crosswind situations. If the storm is due south, moving north, you'll be able to operate longer with resultant winds 10030G40 than you would if the eye was SE of MSY, giving the airport winds of 04030G40 (out of we crosswind limits much earlier...

Good luck, and we'll pray it's not too bad...



User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1420 times:

Tom, you're in my prayers. And please realize that although I sometimes think it a novel idea to have a hurricane hit New Orleans, I know that it is potentially disastrous.

Batten down the hatches. Good luck,
redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offlineMSY-MSP From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Tom, and the rest of the folks down at my old home,

I hope this one misses you like Georges missed us in 1998. I still have my family down there and like all people from New Orleans wont leave for a little category 1 storm. Let me know when MSY shuts down ops. Hope y'all fair well in the storm when it comes. I hope for the best for all of you.

MSY-MSP

As Cowboy Mouth says. "Its a Hurricane party out of control"


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Tom,

I'll be in tomorrow (wednesday) at 9:30am...staying to 3:00pm as of now.

Maybe I'll see ya around. Smile

Steve



User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

I'll be driving in on Friday morning from Austin, Texas...hopefully it's not too bad or I may be delayed.


Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1963 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

going to the game eh brons? Good luck.

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

We appreciate all the thoughts and prayers, as well as the updates. It looks like the system won't be quite as powerful as we originally thought, although it will be cutting it close, but we're still taking every precaution.

To those coming over for the Texas-Tulane game (Texas favored by 35, I think it'll be more than that), the weekend should be fine.

I'll keep you guys updated as we go along. I'll be going into work for the duration here shortly. I'm just taking care of some last minute stuff at the house. The in-laws took my wife and daughters to their house in northeast Louisiana this morning.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2100 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

DL is CNXL flts to and from MSY starting this afternoon.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

I go to school down there-I bounced yesterday (9/24/02) back home to Houston. I was more concerned about getting my car out since I stay on the 2nd floor of my building. The storm won't be that bad-just nasty flooding--I'm not a big enough fan of New Orleans to hang around for that.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1219 times:

Tom,

You guys hanging on? Surfing (on the ramps) yet?  Big grin

Three in the air now will probably now go over the top to the next stop in the aircraft's rotation. We're starting to cancel some other flights now. All MSY RONs were canceled earlier.



User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Forecast surface winds 06025G35KT just dropped off to 05009.... Wonder if they're going to amend the forecast, or whether it's just a temporary abberation....

1209 FLL-MSY-OAK now will probably op FLL-OAK non-stop.

Looks like that transcon service is starting early...  Big grin


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

It's hang-ten time down here!!!

1) OPNLguy: thanks for the WN info.
2) AirTran is done for the day (as of this morning).
3) DL's last went out earlier this afternoon.
4) I'm hearing that CO may actually RON an aircraft tonight. Can any of the CO types confirm that?
5) I also heard that US has a CLT-MSY inbound scheduled for an 0845 arrival tomorrow.

Tom in NO (hanging-ten at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Out of the 3 in the air, one has landed at MSY, and the other 2 are due at about 2150z. :30 from now and will probably make it in/out. All other flights have been canceled for the rest of the day, as of now.

If the winds stay down, and the forecast is amended to reflect such, I'm guessing they might re-instate the flights whose aircraft RON.

Will keep you posted...


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

Last two airborne for MSY made it in OK (winds still down and within limits) and will make it out OK. All other flights canceled. May ferry some in (empty) later to night for morning originators, but no decision yet. New TAF due at 0000Z, so we'll see what it says...

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

We're done, no ferries tonight...

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1127 times:

OPNLguy, as always, thanks for your input. I'm passing everything along in our EOC.

CO people, we're still hearing about 4 terminators here tonight, can anyone confirm this, also what are the equipment types?

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1121 times:

I see that UA cancelled thier flight 1275 (late flight)


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4615 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1093 times:

Isodore is going to be nothing more than a huge rain maker. There will be little effect from wind; comparable to a typical thunderstorm. The most damage will probably come from flooding through heavy rains -- which are already present over the southeast. Threat of tornadoes will exist in the NE quad of the storm -- mainly for MS/AL/FL coast.

If this does get back to a hurricane, it will only be a minimal hurricane at that. A lot of dry air is getting into this thing. Impact shouldn't be too bad...but someone did have to just go and build a city below sea level. UGH! LOL

Good luck  Smile


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1092 times:

Just got back from CO's ticket counter, they will have 4 RON's at MSY tonight:
1) Flt 423 737-900 from IAH at 8:13PM
2) Flt 1423 MD-80 from IAH at 9:51PM
3) Flt 316 737-700 from EWR at 10:26PM
4) Flt 523 737-300 from IAH at 11:03PM

It's mighty breezy, and very wet around these parts.

Tom in NO (at MSY)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1080 times:

>>>PROB40 0612 VRB60KT 1/4SM +TSRA...

Hope things don't get too bad down there overnight....

After 13z, things look increasingly better...



User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4615 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

Isidore is increasing forward speed and should be inland by sunrise. It likely will not reach hurricane strength. Nearly all of the strong convection is already inland and should beging moving north very rapidly. By Friday the storm will be located in Southeast Ohio and be a strong extratropical low.

A few confirmed tornadoes so far...so those and the rain will be the biggest threat for the rest of the night. MSY should be fine and ready to go in the morning.

Next up Lili which, if it can reorganize itself, will make an effort to head for South Florida or the Bahamas.


User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

Ouboy79
You sound like a hurricane tracker(Im as myself)

Tom in NO you should be ok scince its only a tropical storm their is one positive thing about this its going to give some much needed rain to the whole easter part of the U.S.A and some on southern Canada(where I live).

Good luck just in case though.



Where will you spend eternity? He,s more real then you think!!!!!
User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

going to the game eh brons? Good luck.

Yep! (I lettered for Texas, and I never miss any games no matter where they are) With the increase of ground speed of the storm, it should be long gone by the time I arrive Friday afternoon. Now, hopefully the Queen and Crescent Hotel where I'm staying will be dry.

HOOK EM HORNS! BEAT TULANE!!!



Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
25 Post contains images OPNLguy : For Thursday morning... First arrival is DAL-MSY 2388 at 0925 local. First departure is MSY-LAS 2029 at 1000 local. Everything prior to those times ha
26 Post contains images Tom in NO : 4 of us ventured out around 1800 local to get some food (conditions had let up quite a bit at the time, we're not that crazy down here!), and we told
27 OPNLguy : Nope, just my normal 1500-2300, on the west coast this evening, and no fog at SAN (so far...) About to blow this pop stand in 15-20 minutes...
28 KAUSpilot : Every game huh? Did you go to Hawaii to watch the horns beat the Rainbows a few years back? my parents (alum) are making the trip down to NOLA, but I'
29 Tom in NO : Good morning, people: We made it through the night in one piece, it's pretty much stopped raining, winds are out of the west at about 20 kts. CO broug
30 MSY-MSP : Tom, Good to hear that everything went well. Now the only thing is have they drained the I-10 Underpass at the railroad bridge yet. Otherwise it will
31 Post contains images Ouboy79 : Fly yhm... You could say that. LOL Spending a few years at OU's (Univ of Okla) meteorology program didn't hurt either...well except for maybe those ma
32 Post contains images Tom in NO : MSY-MSP: Metairie underpass was flooded,was supposed to reopen around noon. Operations are on their way to returning to normal, or will have by later
33 Post contains images Ouboy79 : Gulf coast residents are going to want to watch Lili now. Looking at some of the forecast models (and per NHC forecasts)...it will reorganize over the
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