StarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6266 times:
I think Innsbruck Airport in Austria is quite hard too, its nestled right in a valley in the Alps. And their ILS is misleading too, you cant follow it down all the way but have to turn a wee bit just before touch down!
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6236 times:
One of the most difficult approaches we fly is Samos in Greece, with Kos at night a close second.
Many of the Greek islands are not easy to fly to in the big jets (A320 / 757). Mykonos and Skiathos are two we (thankfully) don't fly to, but other charter airlines do - some in 757s - which is a rather scary concept.
Madeira is still quite difficult too, although the runway extension is a blessing the new alignment brings you closer to the hills when landing in one direction.
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Bragi From Iceland, joined May 2001, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6202 times:
Right!! I forgat Lugano in Switzerland. Situated in the Alps with only one runway, 1200 metres long and surrounded by mountains. The approach involves very steep descent angle and tight turns.
Airways magasine published an article about Lugano last year...... I think
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Luzezito From Spain, joined May 2001, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6177 times:
I landed as a passenger in 1990 on Madeira and it really scared the hell out of me. The runway was so close that when we turned around after landing the tip of our TAP a/c was almost out of the tarmac and overlooking the sea.
Vulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6039 times:
The approach into Mosjoen, Norway is amazing. I remember flying into that airport 2 years ago. There were mountains all around. The peaks were on the left and the right and they were actually higher than we were. I couldn't see where we were gonna land and all of a sudden we broke through the clouds into a very deep valley and just dived down to the airport. It was a truly amazing landing. I was so impressed with their flying skills. The Norwegian pilots of Wideroe have to be some of the best in the world. Well done.
Arrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5888 times:
There are two airports in British Columbia -- Kitimat and Castelgar -- that offer challenging approaches depending on wind conditions. They are nestled in the bottom of valleys with steep, high mountains all around. Castelgar in particular is a treat. Back when they ran DC-6s in there, after take-off they had to fly very tight climbing circles over the airport to get enough altitude to get over the mountain range. The jets and Dash-8s don't have to do that, but they do need to be very precise about where they turn and when. Instrument operations require lots of concentration.
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Stretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5882 times:
Reagan DCA to the south on RW 18. You snake down the Potomac, dodging office towers on the Virginia side, avoiding the P-40 airspace near the monuments and Whitehouse on the D.C. side. A sharp right turn to line up with the runway just before touch down. Very dicey when the weather is anywhere minimums.
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Rai From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5875 times:
How about the Expressway Visual runway 31 approach for La Guardia? That's pretty cool too. They were using it last night. Just curious, why do they hardly ever use the ILS approach for that runway? Would it interfere with JFK traffic? I don't know how it would since most of the time the 13/31's are used...
Brianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5872 times:
Ketchikan, Sitka, and Juneau, Alaska all have special navigation equipment. They're the only airports in the world to use an RNP approach, where the AS 737s have dual GPS computers and the computers basically generate little boxes the plane flies through to guide it to the runway. I don't know if they are the MOST difficult, but its for sure challenging and does require special training.
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Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5866 times:
Innsbruck, Austria (INN, LOWI) !!!!!!!!!!!
On the apr. for Rwy. 08 you have the river exactly in front of the runway (look at the right pic!), wich could give baaad downwinds and turbolences... and on the 26 apr. you are flying over the whole city... houses and houses and houses...
Downwind for 08 is also extremely strange, passing th airport in the south, make a 180 turn and land the plane... and all that between the big strange mountains... not easy.
KaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5832 times:
If you study the approach charts for the JFK Canarsie VOR approach right away it proves it is not that difficult. Canarsie and IGS approach really have one thing in common... a turn to the right. Besides that, I really dont see what makes the approach difficult. My last time flying into JFK we did the Canarise approach on a UAL 767-300. Spoke to the pilots after that landing. Just as I said, both pilots felt it was not challenging what so ever, compared to SNA or DCA for that matter.
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5674 times:
I heard that Paro, Bhutan (in the Himalayan Mtns.) is a real hard approach. Druk Air, Bhutan's national airline, uses BAe146 aircraft because they can land on short runways (props. probably wouldn't work as well with the altitude).
Check out Dangerous Airports Database for all the hard airports (and ratings). The site is built for Flight Simulator pilots but I think it's interesting even if you not a vitual pilot.
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Lionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5619 times:
There is an other one in Switzerland called "Wangen-Lachen". They don't have airliners but the very special thing is that just at the beginning of the runway there is an exit from a yachting port towards the lake Zurich. If there is coming a sailing boat out of the harbor you have to go around. Otherwise you will crash in the sail!
: Bilbao (BIO) is also a quite challenging one. Would not say "dangerous", but the glideslope is parallel to the hill in front of the runway. View Large
: Just to go to another side of the world... There's Manado in Indonesia. For runway36, ILS takes you through a high valley, but the Glideslope is unser
: Maybe not the most difficult, but a fairly difficult approach in Central Europe is to be found Innsbruck, Austria (LOWI). The instrument procedures ar
: Kai Tak would most likely pop in my head as a difficult approach but I think the aprroach to Iloilo, Philippines seems to be tricky at times.....