Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 737 times:
The A310-300s have gone (e.g., to ASA and Air Plus Comet) but they still operate the A310-200s on mid-hauls around the mediterranean. There has been some rumour going around that Boeing is targeting Hapag-Lloyd (and the other TUI airlineS) as launch customers for the B737-900X - but the B737-900X would only have 20 or so more seats than the -800s and would not be ideal replacement for an A310-200. We shall see.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 734 times:
Just a question about German long-haul market:
Since German tourists are well known to travel a lot all around the world, in the winter I suppose they fly to exotic destinations like Caribbean, Thailand, Kenya and so on.
If Hapag-lloyd and others charters like Air Berlin and Aerolloyd don't have a long haul fleet, who controls the long-haul charter market??
Only Condor and LTU??
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 48 Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 732 times:
After Britannia shut down its unsuccessful German long-haul branch operating two B767-300ER, the German holiday market (it is technically not a charter market, because the flights are scheduled ones and it is possible to individually book seats on them), has concentrated on LTU and Thomas Cook Airlines (unfortunately no barfing Smiley in the library, so just imagine one here instead) to provide long-haul capacity.
On some markets, there may be airlines from the destination countries also providing some capacity, e.g. Air Transat to Canada, but since the German public seems to to be reluctant to fly "unknown foreign" airlines, the market appeal of those competitors seems to be fairly limited.
Some tour operators also offer flights on "regular" airlines as part of an IT package. I remember that some use(d) Air France for flights to the popular Domincan Republic destination SDQ (connecting in CDG, so don't get exited about nonstop AF longhauls from Germany).
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3582 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 602 times:
Well, I assume that you flew with Hapag-Lloyd in 1983 for your summer holidays. In August 1983, 12 Airbus A310 had been delivered by Airbus to three airlines, Lufthansa (6), Swissair (3) and KLM (3). Another three were used as prototypes at that time (they later went to LH, SR and AF). This is the breakdown with d/ds:
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 596 times:
Guys, believe me, it is definitively an A 310. I saw it on the pictures (too bad that the reg. is not visible) and I know the difference between an A 300 and an A 310. Maybe HF has leased some A 310 in 1983?