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Landing On The Taxiway  
User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

I saw a plane yesterday in COS land on the taxiway.
I'm not familiar with small commercial aircraft but it looked like a piper.

my question is this,
1) does this happen often?
2)what will happen to the pilot?

I know those are stupid questions, this was unreal. We heard the tower say to the pilot "nxxxx you just landed on the taxiway, proceed to the jetcenter." that was it, will he get in trouble?


ual 777 contrail

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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

If you end up on the taxiway then there's been a pretty sizeable cock-up somewhere along the line. At the end of the day the tower expects you to be on the runway, and it's the runway which is kept clear for landing -- not the taxiway, which could be in use by all sorts of other traffic.

There's bound to be an investigation and whether the pilot gets in trouble or not will depend on whose fault it is.

I can't speak for private aviation but it's not completely unheard-of even at commercial level. Look at the China Airlines A340 in Anchorage and other recent occurrences.


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

In exceptional cases, a taxiway may be used as runway .. e.g. in case of the runway being obstructed or being worked on. This MAY have been the case, he may have been cleared to land there.




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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

i dont know how you can get a taxi way and rwy confused one has numbers and white markings one doesnt have that. the rwy is usually wider too....whats with the china a340 in anc?


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User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

whats with the china a340 in anc?

When it got a take-off clearance it was suppose to turn right into the runway and take-off. Instead it just started to accelerate for take off on a taxiway parallel to another runway.
It was about a second away from crashing.





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User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

This was a time of day that there really wasn't any traffic, we listen to tower communication in ops. He was cleared for the runway right in front of the airforce base. He then landed on taxiway golf.

one more question, can a taxiway handle a widebody landing on it?

ual 777 contrail


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Was that incident in ANC an A340 or a B744? I thought it was a fully loaded 747-400?

And that aircraft barely cleared a snow burm at the end of the taxiway, there went the career of those pilots!

A NCA B742 also just about did the same thing, except the TWR noticed in time and stopped him.


-Dmitry


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2362 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1910 times:
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A delivery aircraft of Shanghai Airlines 737-800 took of from Honolulu either with the wind, or on a taxiway. I couldent see because HNL Airport's "junk" was blocking. All other aircraft departed on 08R, 08L - small aircraft on 04R, 04L. Instead this 738 lifted off with the wind. The wind was blowing from the Northeast, it lifted off Southwest. Funny.

User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

The other week a Jet Airways Boeing 737-700 in India landed in Pune on a taxiway parrell to the runway. The pilot did not know what happened until he got to the terminal. The same aircarft took-off a few hours later on the return flight to Mumbai with no damage.

User currently offlineAS_GSC From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

Here's a link to an article about the ANC incident....

http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0102/27/news.shtml

Cheers!

AS_GSC



User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2509 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

I'm pretty sure that it's a routine thing for small aircraft like Cessna's and Pipers to land at [designated] taxiways.

In the seventies, when DFW had only two main north-south runways [17R/35L, and 17L/35R], the third north-south runway [18R/36L] was the inner western taxiway! I presume that it was limited to turboprops only, since it was only 4000ft or so.

PW100



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6305 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

AeroMexico used to tear up the taxiway at TUS on a regular basis. It happened at least three times, that I know of, in the last 10 years that they flew here.

A DC-9 makes quite interesting ruts when it lands on a taxiway.



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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

so i guess the taxiways are much thinner than the runways?



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 weeks ago) and read 1683 times:

Before they built RWY 16R/34L at Fort Worth Alliance Airport, they used taxiway B for landings quite often. They cleared me to land on this taxiway on more than one occasion.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 weeks ago) and read 1663 times:

It was an A-340 Dimitry.

I was working that night down in South Airpark but didn't hear about it until they talked about it on the news the next night.




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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 802 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

There are quite a few places where taxiways are routinely used as runways, although only for 'light' aircraft.

Frankfurt, Germany, is one among them.

Read the 'DEPARTURE' info (gotcha, depature  Big grin

Regards,
Jernej



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User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Auckland International Aiport uses teh taxiways to land sometimes like about 3 months ago when the runway was being worked on!!

Mike


User currently offlineT prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1029 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Hey Jerrold,

That Shanghai Airlines 738 you saw take off from HNL did not take off from a taxiway, they used 26R as instructed by a controller.

Yes, this was against the pattern, but traffic was very light and winds were calm at the time. Since they were parked at Century Aviation the controller saved them about 2 miles of taxying.

While this is not common, every once in a while it is done.

T prop.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6927 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

If the taxiway has enough strenghts, one can land on it. You may end up in trouble for it unless you were cleared to do so...

If the taxiway is not strong enough, then you'll tear it up on landing. Get a huge bill and a probably some disciplinary action.

Not all taxways are built to runway strength

Mandala499



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Taxiways are considerably thinner than runways. The average taxiway is actually about as thick as your average concrete interstate or highway.

If an airliner lands on a taxiway, it's bound to cause some considerable damage to it.

Regards



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User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2362 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1325 times:
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Since they were parked at Century Aviation Nope. No that one.

So if the winds were stronger, it would have taken off on 08R? Man!!! Missed it!!! I'm sure glad to photograph that bird the day before though...


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T prop, I have some questions. How do you know that knowledge? How often do you go to the airport? Do you submit any photos to A.net? Are you one of those guards? Do you work on the ramp? Do you know what other delivery/ferry flights are coming in? Do you take pics of Honolulu action too?

Thanks,
Jerrold

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