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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Hi guys,

The coming saturday (05/10), there is a convention at Brussels of people who want to sell or exchange their airline stuff.

You can buy or exchange safetycards, aircraft miniatures,...

Also our famous a.net members MD-11er and A330DAT will be there to show their stuff  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

Anyway, what do you guys think of this scenario: go to the Convention in the morning, and go to the 25L spotters area in the afternoon?

Here is a route transcription to the convention:
place: Atheneum Zaventem-Kortenberg, located on the Spoorwegstraat ( Railwaystreet), in the center of Zaventem, very close to the BRU airport.

Hope to see you guys there!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Best regards,
Frederic




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User currently offlineMD-11er From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 201 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 3219 times:


Hi Fred,

This a very nice idea, I will see until what time the convention last. If it's already finished at 3 or 4 pm I will join you at the Watertower unless of course they use the 02.

But see you for sure at the convention.
It starts at 10 am.

See you Saturday.

MD-11er


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User currently offlineTurbotrent From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

Hey Frederic,

Indeed, very good idea. Sad thing is that I have an important test on Monday, so I won't be able to come the whole day, but I think I will come to the convention. So if you need a ride from the airport to the convention, you just let me know  Smile

Best regards,

Tom



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Frederic,

Do you now if there is a fee for a table at the exchange convention? I'll have to work on saturday until 14.00 hours. I'll try to go there aswell when I'm finished.



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User currently offlineILS.25L From Belgium, joined Nov 2000, 153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Hi guys,
I'll be paying a visit on Saturday at the convention. Depending the weather and interesting visitors at the airport, my stay will be long or short. Does anybody know the exact hours of the convention ?
Regards, Karl


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

I have really thought about to join you guys there, I searched on some websites for flights but the cheapest same day return fare from DUS to BRU was about 354 Euro (KL via AMS). Too bad that SNBA does not fly from BRU to DUS like Sabena have done it, I am sure that a nonstop flight were way cheaper. Soon I am allowed to fly on ID tix, than it will be no problem to come for a day to BRU!

Patrick


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

MD-11er is the specialist.

I hope he reads this before he flies to Africa tomorrow Big grin

Anyway, I think you already had to reserve your tables. The price to entry is 2,5 € BTW.

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

@Karl:

I think from 10am to 5 pm.

Anyway, much traffic or not, the dead moments can be filled in den Jumbo Big grin

@Patrick:

Sad you can't come to BRU  Sad

Is it possible to go via FRA with LH and EW? Or with EW to FRA, and than with Delsey Airlines / Ibertrans to BRU?

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

Frederic,

tomorrow Morning at work I will ask my boss, maybe he can procure me a cheaper flight.

Patrick


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Just some info for the spotters: together with Sabena's receiver i am preparing something really nice.

We currently make a selection of the more than 45.000 pictures from the Sabena archives. The result will be published in a book that will appear next month (7 november!). Guys, it's really amazing what i have discovered in these photo albums: from 1923 till 2001 all aircraft, pics of the mechanics, of the VIPS that have flown Sabena, of the airfields, of the check-in, of the kitchens, the cabin crew evolution, the Congo flights with the DC 6, pics of the upper bar in the 747, pics of the royal family, pics from animal transport, pics from special cargo loads, ... You tell it, it's all there.

I think I am allowed to anounce it here because we don't have commercial intentions. It's a volunteer job and part of a project to protect these archives!!!! Hopefully the Belgian government will buy this amazing collection because it's our aviation history!!!






User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

@Patrick: great news!!

@Pressclub: Thanks (again) for the great initiative! No commercial intentions you say, so we will not be able to buy the book?  Sad

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

You will be able ofcourse, but there is no margin on it. So cost price is sell price... I am affraid you will be even a greater fan of Sabena after you see it...

Pressclub


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3115 times:


Hi all,

Won't be able to make it on saturday because I have to work.

Regards, SN-A330




I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

.....of the VIPS that have flown Sabena

Wow, a picture of me Big grin

Seriously, please keep us informed about the book, of course I will buy it!

Patrick


User currently offlineMD-11er From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 201 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 3104 times:


Hi Guys,

The convention will take place from 10.00 till 17.00, entrance is at the price of 2,5 euro, the tables at 15 euro. Food and beverages will be available at low price.

If you want to have more info, the email address of the person in charge is:
safetyfan@hotmail.com

Pressclub, what about giving away the book for nothing in honor of all the ex-SN employees iso selling it like you did with your prior book.
Making money is apparently an important stuff for some persons or does it start from good intentions?
What I doubt!

MD-11er.


User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

> what about giving away the book for nothing in honor of

MD-11er, we are all aware that publishing a book with multi-coloured pictures is an investment that can easily run into several thousands of euros. Therefore, I don't see how you can give away such publication just for free, unless you can find a generous sponsor.

The only way to give all the ex-SN employees (and the public in general) free access to these interesting SN archives is by putting these pictures on the internet (just like Airliners.net is doing).

> Making money is apparently an important stuff for some persons

Money is of course an important issue, although it should indeed be secondary to good intentions.

If you're talking about this new book, Pressclub wrote "...there is no margin on it. So cost price is sell price...". That sounds fair to me (from a customer viewpoint)!

Talking about money. You may get into the convention for 2,5 €. However, you may need another 25€ or even 250€, if you want to put something nice in your shopping cart! These aviation goodies tend to be quite expensive (sigh).


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Hi guys,

Wow, what a nice initiative. I think I'll be able to make it. If I remember correct, I have to go to (another) weddig that day, but I think we're only invited for the evening party, so I just might be able to bother you guys the whole day  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I just mailed to safetyfan@hotmail.com for a correct address (you know, route-planner and stuff...).

So, this meeting starts at 10AM, right?

Pressclub:

Whole cow, how nice...I'm really anxious to see all those pictures... Do you know if it will be available in the normal book stores, or do we have to (pre) order it somewhere? I'm not sure of this (since you stated that cost price= selling price), but if you can get some sort of discount, let me know this time  Smile/happy/getting dizzy (not that I think the other one was too expensive or so, not at all)

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlinePressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 774 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

MD 11'er,

I thought I was clear: it has nothing to do with making money... We just thought we had to do it to confront people with the problem of the archives, to give all belgian aviation addicts an opportunity to see what Sabena was all about for almost 80 years, ...

So i think we only have 'good' intentions. It's not commercial at all.

Established, you understood it




User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
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I'm also planning to attend that convention, it takes me a half hour to drive there from where I live. I was there last year. Every year, somebody sends me a letter by mail about that convention, his name is Oliver Lamoral. It was in the Airways magazine five or six years ago, that's how I know him, I mean that's how I knew about the airliner convention held every year in Brussels.
I hope to see you all there.  Smile

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months ago) and read 3044 times:

Hi guys,

You will be able ofcourse, but there is no margin on it. So cost price is sell price...

Is very fair! I will certainly buy this nice book  Smile

@SN-A330,
Sad you can't attend the second meeting again  Sad

@Ben:
Thanks for coming!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineA330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Hello Frederic, Helo everyone,

Some more action in Brussels...Yes, I should be there on Saturday. I will look forward to meeting you.

 Big thumbs up


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Hey guys,

I just talked with my buddy Sebastian (Herbman) and we decided to come to BRU by car on Saturday because the same day return fares are too high.

Frederic, I will send you an eMail this evening or tomorrow, there we can agree on a meeting point at BRU.

I am looking forward to Saturday

Patrick


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

It seems that we will get more people this time than on the previous meeting  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

Thanks Patrick and A330DAT!!

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineA330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

Sabena332 you're welcome any time

 Big thumbs up

The drive from Dusseldorf to Brussels is only two hours.


DRIVING DIRECTIONS

In case you've never been here or for those who are interested, the quickest way from DUS is the highway that passes by the city of Liege (E40), 3 lanes most of the way, not the highway that goes through part of holland (Maastricht) and the city of Hasselt (A2), 2 lanes. Not to be mistaken you take the highway south of Aachen.

When you reach Brussels, follow the signs to the airport: Zaventem.

When reaching the airport, do not go over the bridge that goes to the terminals. stay right, next to the bridge. Under the bridge is a roundabout. When reaching the roundabout, you turn right.

Then you will be driving on the main road through the town of Zaventem. There will be another roundabout and you will end up going left (follow the main traffic flow), you cross over the railway bridge. It's the first street on your left and the school is immediately to your right.


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Hope to see you there.


 Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smokin cool



User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2957 times:

Damn, I forgot Sebastian! Big grin So also thanks for coming, Sebastian  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Thanks for the very usefull route description, A330DAT!

But maybe I have another suggestion: I have to come by train to BRU. This is my suggestion: at what time do we see you there, Patrick and Sebastian? I know you have to get up very quick, but what do you think of being at 8am at Brussels? Than we can do some spotting at the 25L area (or 02 if they use 02). Than you will see Delsey Airlines etc. landing.

At 10 'o clock, Tom will already be at the 25L area (isn't it Tom?), and so we all can proceed to the convention.

I don't know where it exactly is, but with the route description of A330DAT, it will not be a problem. I think, following his description, that I already was there in the neighbourhood, so it will not be a problem.

The drive from Dusseldorf to Brussels is only two hours

Is this based on a normal speed (of let's say 130km/h), or is this based on the speed you and MD-11er go to FRA and DUS? Big grin (so let's say 200km/h) Big grin?

I ask this because, if Patrick and Sebastian don't drive as fast as you do in the car, that they will need 3 hours to come to BRU, and so I will have one hour to wait at the airport.

See you all there Big grin

Regards,
Frederic


25 Post contains images A330DAT : Ha ha ha Sabena 690 that's a good one. I C you also know MD-11er's driving. No, it's regular driving (220km, kidding) but also it's a Saturday, so the
26 AirOrange : Alas, I cannot come. Have fun! Btw: Next time I need to know these events earlier.
27 Post contains images Sabena332 : Hey guys! Sorry for my late reply but I just woke up because I had a few beers too much yesterday, good that we have a public holiday in Germany today
28 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi Patrick, You misunderstood one thing: I will come by train to the airport. But I will be there already at 8 o' clock. I will meet Tom there at 8'o
29 Post contains images Sabena332 : Oh sorry Frederic, I still feel the beers that I drunk yesterday night Everything sounds perfect, we meet us at the airport, went to the convention, l
30 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi Patrick, The planns have slightly changed, but it will make no difference for you. Tom can't come to BRU saturday He has an important test of maths
31 Sabena332 : Hi Frederic! Too bad that Tom can not join us on the meeting but you are correct, a test of maths is more important. We will arrive with Sebastian`s c
32 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi Patrick, Parking is prohibited there (unless you have to drop passengers there), I will try to go to your car before you park (Police can do very d
33 Sabena332 : Hey Frederic, if parking is prohibited there we make some tours around the roundabout until you see us. See you tomorrow Patrick
34 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi guys, I will be at the 25L area (or 02 if they use this runway) already from 8 'o clock. So if there are others who want to get up very quick, feel
35 Sabena332 : That is perfect Frederic, we will watch out for the red Alfa and you guys for the silver Cordoba with a German license plate. Patrick
36 Post contains images Apuneger : Hi guys, me again. A VG Airlines will arrive at about 12h35 STA? Cewl, I want to catch one of these on my new digital before they go out of business (
37 Post contains images A330DAT : Apuneger - A 110mm for the touchdown zone may not be enough but if you go to the water tower at the end of the runway, you could get a little closer.
38 Apuneger : A330DAT: I think you may have misunderstood me: ~110mm (75mm x 1,6) is my MINIMUM, since I only have a 75-300mm at this moment (my 28-200mm hasn't arr
39 Post contains links and images Sabena 690 : Hi guys, Ivan: 110mm is not enough! You will need certainly 200mm if you want a side shot. If you want a shot like this: View Large View MediumPhoto &
40 Sabena332 : Can someone tell me more about the spotting location where we will go after the convention? Is it an observation deck or is it before/behind a runway?
41 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi Patrick: Here are some pictures of the famous spots were we will be: Regards, Frederic
42 Post contains links and images Sabena 690 : And maybe your last chance to see this one : View Large View MediumPhoto © Philippe Bleus Frederic
43 Post contains links and images Sabena332 : Thanks Frederic! The locations are looking fantastic, especially I like this one: View Large View MediumPhoto © Staffan Hardie Lets hope that we
44 Sabena 690 : Patrick, I can assure you that if an older generation B747 comes in, and if you are under the spot of the picture you showed, that it gives a kick tha
45 Sabena332 : That sounds very good. I do not only watch the planes, I am also listening to them and some old 747 are perfect because they are very loud. Now I am l
46 Post contains images Apuneger : Hi guys, me again back from (interim) work, Tomorrow I'll try to get at the convention between 10h00 and 11h00 (unless the interim job office calls me
47 A330DAT : Apuneger - Why would you want to take a picture of the Delsey aircraft in Brussels when you can shoot it at Frankfurt next week when Delsey will opera
48 Post contains images Apuneger : A330DAT: Well, that's just because I live much close to BRU than to FRA... Anyway: latest update on my plans: since I'll probably have to go to the we
49 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Thanks for the weather forecast, A330DAT!! See you all there guys!! Regards, Frederic
50 Post contains links and images Turbotrent : Hello guys, I have taken a break now (Damn, that math is really hard ). I am really sorry that I couldn't be there. I hope you guys have a good time a
51 Established02 : Hello, I visited the convention (and briefly met Sabena 690, MD11er,...) and I saw many nice goodies. I was surprised to see so many foreign participa
52 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi guys, I am just back from Brussels!! The weather was bad, but it was a fantastic day. Especially the compagnie was very nice: Louis-Philippe (a fri
53 Post contains images Apuneger : Sabena 690: So you staid to see Luchtzak land? Great, now he owes you two beers Anyway, sorry that I didn't pay a short visit to the convention in Zav
54 Lima : Hello guys, I was today at the convention. I decided last night to go. It was very interesting as I never been before to the Brussels convention. I th
55 Post contains images Sabena332 : Me and Herbman also returned from the BRU spotter meeting. In our opinion was it one of the best meetings that we ever visited. First we visited the c
56 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Hi guys, @Ivan: So you staid to see Luchtzak land? Great, now he owes you two beers No The first who takes a picture of him gets two beers. @Lima: May
57 Post contains images Apuneger : Sabena 332: No problemo. Thanks for the compliment. At this moment, I'm editing the 300+ pictures I took that day Oh yeah, did I already told you guys
58 Sabena332 : Apuneger, I hope that we can see a lot of picture that you took yesterday here on a.net. Patrick
59 Apuneger : Sabena332: I'll do my best, but the weather was indeed horrible, and I had to use the brightness increase function, so I'm not sure if they'll get acc
60 Herbman : Thank you Frederic, Ivan and Louis-Philippe for a very nice day. I hope to see you soon at the convention in FRA. Brussels` spotting locations are one
61 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Thanks for the compliment Sebastian!! And indeed, BRU is very good for spotting The only thing we need here are the heavies like you are used to see i
62 Post contains links and images Apuneger : Here are a few pics I took that day, that already got uploaded to the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Ivan Coninx Ivan
63 Sabena332 : Cool Ivan!!! Thanks for posting the pics, I like them very much, keep up the good work! Patrick
64 Post contains links and images Apuneger : Here's another one that got accepted last night: View Large View MediumPhoto © Ivan Coninx Unfortunately, that's not the Delsey Airlines aircraft
65 Post contains links and images Sabena 690 : Once again congrats with the pics, Ivan!! I uploaded my first picture yesterday, and this morning it was already accepted: View Large View MediumPhoto
66 Apuneger : Sabena 690: Thanks again. And wow, you made a really nice shot there apparently. Too bad the weather wasn't as good as it is today (blue sky). It seem
67 Sabena332 : Hi Frederic, congratulations to the picture and thanks a lot for the nice caption! Patrick
68 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Thanks guys Ivan, I think that contrails is a good name. Maybe someone can confirm please? Regards, Frederic
69 Sabena332 : I think also that "contrails" is correct, Philippe used also this word and he must know it because he is a pilot. Patrick
70 Lima : Thank you for the Saudia picture, I was wondering from where it was coming. Do anyone know why the Delsey aircraft that later left for Armenia was par
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