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User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 14
Posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 966 times:

Does anyone think this could be an idea? What do people think a developed L1011 would need. Based on the L1011-lovers in this forum, presumably some people would like to see the L1011NG.

It would have to have an updated avionics suite (with FBW? and glass cockpit), a new interior and probably new engines - it would look quite cool with Trent 500s!

What do you think?

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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 802 times:

I honestly don't think it would be very cost efficient for Lockheed to get back into commercial aircraft production. Besides the fact, they'd only be relying on one airframe. McDonnell Douglas tried to improve on the DC10 airframe with the MD-11. Nice airplane, but it didn't exactly live up to it's expectations, performance and range wise. Unfortunately, it's sales didn't meet expectations, either, as Boeing is discontinuing this production line. The name of the game today is ASM's and fuel efficiency, the bottom line. An aircraft with 3 engines just isn't practical, when a similiar aircraft such as the 767-400ER, 777ER, A330-200, can perform the same functions, more economically with 2 engines. The ever growing trend has always leaned towards ETOPS. With the exception, of course, ultra long haul, which is where the 747-400, A340-300/500/600, come into play. Just my thoughts on the subject. Thanks for reading.

User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2785 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 790 times:

Actually, I agree with John. For that reason, when I designed the L-1011-600 and -650 I gave them a massive increase in size, a totally new airliner which carries as many people as a 747 in far more luxury with only 3 engines. It flies farther, faster, is quieter, and is more fuel efficient.
Eg777er: If you'd like my schematics, I can E-Mail them to you.



"Mental health is reality at all cost." -- M. Scott Peck, 'The Road Less Traveled'
User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 779 times:

I am going to have to agree with john. Don't count on Lockheed making a new L1011.

User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 772 times:

Im not really serious considering them reentering the civil aviation market, but I was wondering what a new 3 engine airliner would need to be able to compete in the current marketplace.

User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 773 times:

Lockheed tried a glass cockpit on the co-pilots' side of the prototype airplane. Sure, I would like to see an L1011NG, but I don't think that will happen. L1011s' seem to be worth more as parts these days.  


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineDeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 770 times:

All of Delta's L-1011s have been purchased by an unknown and new cargo/charter airline. This is a rumor at this point, but 13 are at the Lockheed Modifications Center being completely redone. A new digital cockpit, upgraded engines, and a few other things.

By the way, 747-600X, please send me the schematics.


User currently offlineJr From United States of America, joined May 1999, 966 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 755 times:

How many L1011s are still in Delta's fleet and when are they going out?


I've flown on 9V-SPK.
User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 749 times:

The flying fleet stands at around 26 (probably less). A few are in Mojave, but most are in Victorville, Ca. A few of the desert a/c have had their gear removed and are sitting on railroad ties. A few of the scrapped planes were up against their design cycle limit and Lockheed refused to extend this limit without research and a huge financial commitment.


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineDelta15 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 617 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 746 times:

God I would love to see a new L1011 or have the old one stay around longer. But that wont happen. I was on one on Saturday and I just love that plane. Too bad in just a few years we wont see the L1011, at least the Delta ones...

A. Hemingway
Richmond VA


User currently offlineSqman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 712 times:

I have been hearing that Delta Airlines is going to take 10 of there L-1011's and turn them into Freighters. I hope this is true. and who knows, maybe the makers of the L-1011 will see this as a opening door to get back into the freighter market..

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