JohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1620 posts, RR: 3 Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2008 times:
I found the earlier thread about oddball aircraft different airlines have flown to be quite entertaining. How about aircraft that have been ordered by various airlines but for whatever reason were not taken up? Here are a couple to start with:
Western Airlines 767-200s - the order was cancelled in favor of more 737-300s. They would have complemented Delta's fleet nicely after their merger, and would have looked great in Western's white/red livery. However, at the time Western was going toward the silver image, so I'm not sure how good they would have looked in that scheme.
Trans World Airlines A318s.
Pan Am A320s - ordered but never delivered. Some of these went to Braniff III.
Braniff I green 747 - Braniff did operate the 747 type, but all the ones that made it into their fleet were orange. Supposedly there was a green one that made it to the delivery line at Boeing but got routed to another airline at the last minute due to Braniff's financial situation.
Continental 767-300s - I visited Boeing in 1995 and saw a Continental 767-300 on the delivery line. This order was subsequently cancelled and the aircraft were transferred to other operators - I believe Vietnam Airlines got some of these. To this day Continental hasn't operated the 767-300.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1932 times:
Western had 3 747-147s on order, but were cancelled in favor of the DC-10.
American had the Boeing 2707 supersonic airliner on order, but we all know the aircraft was never built, so I guess that doesn't count. Another interesting topic. I'll be back with some more 'oddball almosts'. Regards.
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Canadi>n From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
I have an old CP Air inflight magazine (Ka'na'ta) with a 767-200 in full CP Air colours on the "Fleet" page. Also, one of Wardair's annual reports had a picture of the MD-87's or 88's that Wardair was going to order to use on their thinner scheduled domestic routes.
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1829 times:
Cathay were due to take DC10s because of a special deal that GE was offering on the engines. Later, Cathay found that the offer was for one aircraft only, and not an entire fleet, so we got Tristars instead.
I also know that Dragonair had 3 MD11s on order. These were for services to London and other long-haul destinations. Dragonair was promptly bought by Cathay and the order cancelled.
I think I remember something about British Caledonian ordering MD11s as well, which never materialised.
ZAS Airline Of Egypt ordered one MD11, but it was never delivered.
Zambia Airways odered one MD11 but it was never delivered.
Viasa had 2 MD11s on order but these were also cancelled.
Nigeria had one MD11 on order but was cancelled.
Minerve of France had 2 MD11s on order, but these were cancelled when AOM merged with Minerve.
AOM had 4 MD11s on order but these were dropped when AOM merged with Minerve.
JAT of Yugoslavia had 3 MD11s on order but were cancelled.
China Southern had a LOI for 6 MD11s which never materialised and they bought 777s instead.
Air Zaire had 2 MD11s on order but these were cancelled due to financial losses.
Air Europe had signed for an order of 6 MD11s with 12 options and further agreed to lease 2, but with the demise of the company, so went the orders.
Aero Lloyd had ordered 2 MD11s for long-haul charter ops, but these were cancelled when they decided not to fly longhaul.
9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1786 times:
The reason why SIA cancelled the M11 order was due to its poor performance. I have a picture of a MD11 in SIA's new livery in a 1992 SIA Outlook magazine.
SIA actually wanted to operate SIN-CDG non-stop, and MDD mentioned that the M11 could fly to CDG non-stop. When it came out, however, the range was not up to SIA's specifications, so it was cancelled and replaced it by the A340.
However the A340 was a very poor climber, although it had the range, so SIA put back the 744 on the CDG route and began to gradually replace the A343 with the 772ER aircraft, as it had better climb performance and was faster.
SIA currently has 5 A340s left in the fleet, out of the original 15. 2 went to Cathay Pacific(9V-SJA,9V-SJB) as B-HXM and B-HXN. 4 went to Khalifa(two were actually supposed to go to Air Switzerland but it never materialised, so they went to Khalifa) and 4 are currently being marketed by Boeing.
El Al 001 From Israel, joined Oct 1999, 1063 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1760 times:
El Al Israel Airlines.
During the 70's the airline had a great interest in the supersonic Boeing 2707 and even placed 2 options for that aircraft. However, The airliner wasn't eventually build.
In 2 tenders over the 90's, LY was thinking of getting the A32X family into service, the A346 and A332.
The most serious thoughts were for the A332, where LY was certain to buy 3-4 of it, but then the Middle East crisis had begun, add to that some political pressures and LY didn't order the a/c after all.
The airline was scheduled to get into service 2 A320s exactly 2 years ago, this was supposed to be the 1st ever operation of an Airbus a/c by an Israeli airline.
The airline was thinking seriously of operating Saab2000s instead its aging DHC-7s, Crossair even brought a sample to Israel, so Arkia was able to learn about it...
Also, the airline was considering the DHC-8-400Q to replace the DHC-7s, but chose in the end the ATR72 family.
9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
From my sources here is the status of the fifteen aircraft SIA ordered.
9V-SJA - Sold to Cathay Pacific as B-HXM
9V-SJB - Sold to Cathay Pacific as B-HXN
9V-SJC - Sold to Cathay Pacific as B-HXO
9V-SJD - Sold to Khalifa
9V-SJE - Sold to Khalifa
9V-SJF - Originally to Air Switzerland, not taken up, sold to Khalifa but not in service
9V-SJG - Originally to Air Switzerland, not taken up, sold to Khalifa but not in service
9V-SJH - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJI - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJJ - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJK - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJL - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJM - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJN - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJO - Still in service with Singapore Airlines
9V-SJP - Ordered but not taken up, going directly to Boeing from Airbus
9V-SJQ - Ordered but not taken up, going directly to Boeing from Airbus
BTW I heard 9V-SMD is going to be leased to Air Nigeria - any confirmation or pics?
Broke From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1689 times:
Eastern Airlines evaluated the Breguet 188 for its shuttle operation in the early 1970's. This was a 4 engine STOL turbo-prop.
Eastern Airlines also later evaluated (1977) the DHC-7 for use by Disney World at Orlando as a quiet STOL airliner that would be part of system that service the Southeastern U.S. to the theme park. I flew on this airplane with DeHavilland test pilots, what a gas!!
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this one:
WN initially was going to fly Lockheed Electras(I'm sure of lockheed, believe it's the electra) but it fell through and they got the 732s. I always wondered where they would be today if they got them, probably in the history books.
25 Flying-Tiger: Euralair A330, A321 and B777 Regards Flying-Tiger http://fly.to/rorders
26 CF-CPI: I second Canadi>n's CP Air 767-200. Would have been awesome in the orange. Western also ordered a handful of 767-200s but never took them due to their
27 John: Mohawk, I believe had 737-200s on order at one time. USAirways does have convertable options on the books for either the A343 or 332, which I don't se
28 FlagshipAZ: Western Airlines did placed an order for 10 BAC-111-200s...unknown as to what happened to it. And American did come very, very close to sign up for th
29 JohnJ: There was a rumor awhile back that Northwest was going to pick up KLM's MD11 fleet. Just a rumor, but it would be interesting nonetheless.
30 CF-CPI: FlaghshipAZ, Bonanza ordered BAC-111s as well but could not get a loan for them. I believe there was some subtle suggestion that they 'buy American',
31 Redwarf: Interesting to note: In the book "Nuts!" (It's been a while since I read the book on Southwest, but I think that's the book in the context of my post)