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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Here's a pic I took on my last flight, I was enroute BNA to ONT over northern Arkansas.

http://www.pbase.com/image/5524168/original


I was having a "friendly argument" with a buddy about this. While I can see it's obviously a USAir, I'm stumped by the type. In my opinion it's a 757. Looks too long to be a 319; the 319 is one of the shortest Airbuses! What do you guys think? Anything about the shape that influences your decision? I don't see winglets...or am I blind?


bruce


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User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

US Airways A330.




User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Too much compression when I try to zoom in on it in PS. I can't really see winglets, but there is a good possiblity that it's an A321. The nose and the tail seem to show the shape of an airbus.

User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Brian, I doubt it's a 330. Doesn't USair only fly the 330 from the east coast cities to Europe? PHL to London for example. Then it wouldn't be seen in Arkansas for sure!

Dazed, we were thinking about the Airbus shape. Is the 321 longer than a 320, or 319? How long is it compared to a 757?

bruce



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1485 times:

I'm going to go with USAirways A321.

User currently offline3green From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Well, i would have agreed with BrianHames, i was sure it was an A330 too, but i dont live in the US, so i`m not going to argue if its in an area A330s dont go Smile

User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

I don't see full sized winglets like the A330, but I'm pretty sure the aircraft pictured has those small wingtip fences as on the A32X, so I'm going to vote for A321 since it's a bit long to be a 319 or 320.

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

US Airways, A321 or B752

Rgds
Frederic


User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1433 times:


Hi!

I had the chance to take a close look to that nice air to air photo. It can't be a 757 because the tail of the aircraft is small, as all the Airbuses except the A330-200. If you look close to the wing tips they're small so it can't be a A330-300 from USAir. It's an Airbus A321 from USAir, the A319 would be smaller and the A320 would be shorter from the front part of the aircraft.
regards


User currently offlineTrident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Although I can't see the winglets, I'm pretty certain it's an Airbus A321. Just goes to show how alike modern airliner designs are.

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6930 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

It's US Airways A321.

The body length/body thickness/wing width to length/tail heiht proportions say it's A321.

Body too thin and Wing too narrow for A330.
Tail too short and wing too thin for 752.

Engine shape and the small winglet on the nearest wing makes me say it's an A321... however, I could be mistaken...  Smile

Mandala499



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User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

US Airways A321


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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 weeks ago) and read 1222 times:

Ok.....I think we have a concensus here. I'll go with that. But now that leads me to my next question which could be nearly impossible to answer, where was this plane going?

I have MS Streets & Trips map program. I drew a line from BNA to ONT (my flight), and several intersecting routes which would converge over Arkansas, and likely destinations would seem to be LAX or SAN if starting from CLT, or DFW if starting from PHL or PIT. Has US changed their 321 jet assignments for their fall timetable? They only show those routes using a 319 now.


bruce



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User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Definitely an A321, and chances are high it was headed to LAX.

These are the current USAIRWAYS westbound transcons operating with A321 equipment, which likely would've been over AR:

FLT 91 PHLSAN
FLT 89 PITSAN
FLT 11 PHLLAX
FLT 29 PHLLAX
FLT 23 CLTLAX
FLT 1 PITLAX
FLT 9 PITLAX

A little less likely, but weather routing might have been a factor, it could also have been one of these:

FLT 121 CLTDEN
FLT 101 CLTSEA

By using the time of day, you could narrow it down further, but I would guess if it was in the afternoon it was probably flight 23, which departs CLT at 1605, and arrives at LAX at 1810.

Travis


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Dazed, we were thinking about the Airbus shape. Is the 321 longer than a 320, or 319? How long is it compared to a 757?

A321 is longer than the A320/319. A321 is 146.0 feet long, and the 757 is 155.3 feet. Pretty much the same length etc. Take a look at both images, you can see the differences...and from the photo you took, you could probably pick out why it's an airbus (the curves etc).


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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3436 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

its a A321, you can tell it doesn't have the long narrow shape that a 757 has.

User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1049 times:

Travatl, I forgot to mention the time...guess that would help! This "meeting of the planes" was about 10:30am or so (central time). If it departed the northeast (PIT/PHL) it would have had to be about 7:00am - 8:00am, maybe slightly later if it left CLT.


bruce



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