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User currently offlineMarkus From United States of America, joined May 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 618 times:

Alright, everyone knows that USAirways needs to replace the ageing 727's that they use on their shuttle. The question is, with what? I've heard rumers that it will be the 737-400 and also the -300 series. I believe the -400 would work very well. They could also hush-kit the 727's but this would leave USAirways with a lot of planes (that is if the don't expand West). So here's my question...What should USAirways do? Remember to keep in mind the competition with Delta's Shuttle.

I havn't thought of an answer that seems perfect in my mind yet. But I originally thought that the F-100's would be a good choice. They are short/medium range, queit, and very efficient, as well as comfortable. But then I remembered that the F-100 only seats 119 people in all coach configuration. The 727 can seat up to 175-180. My vote goes to the 737-400.

Like to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,
Markus

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User currently offlineWill From Australia, joined May 1999, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 618 times:
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G'day..
Put me down for the B737-400 also...and depending on your route's may a fleet of -300 or -500 wouldn't hurt either..
See yah..
Will....


User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1649 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 618 times:
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I don't think they are going to replace their 727s any time soon. The Shuttle is operated like a separate airline. Even though US Airways bought it from Shuttle Inc., they still have their own crews, mostly ex-Eastern, and the 727s which they inherited from Eastern. When I pay with my Visa card, my statement lists the flight as Trumpair, not US Airways. And my frequent flyer mileage is never credited until I mail them my boarding pass a couple of months after I have flown. So it doesn't look like they are going to integrate it into the rest of US Airways. If they were, wouldn't they have done it already?

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 618 times:

Probably the would stick one of their old birds off their current line probably the -300,-400 or the -500. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they stuck one of their new A-320's on the route either


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User currently offlineSingapore 777-3 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 618 times:

I think most likely at least a portion of the 737s in the current USAir fleet will go to USAir Express (also called MetroJet I think). But the upcoming A320 series will replace the routes the 737 currently operate.

User currently offlineERAU From Canada, joined May 1999, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 619 times:

Since US Airways bought the Shuttle its market share has slipped considerably. From 50% to more like 30-40%

I believe this is because US Airways does not go to the great lengths Delta does in providing the most hassle free shuttle experience.

Delta offers its bus transit system at the shuttle destinations and also offers a new partnership with the BostonCoach to provide transportation to/from shuttle cities directly to home or office, using new volvo S80s.

I think before the 727s need to be hush-kitted they should be replaced with 737-300s in the all coach, leather seat configuration. I picked the -300 because US Airways has more of them than they do the -400. Also I think they should upgrade the overhead bins to make them larger like Shuttle by United has done.

Then they need to provide bus transit and BostonCoach service to compete with Delta.

Then when all the 737-200s, DC-9s, and MD-80s have been replaced with Airbus aircraft I think they should switch to A320s in an all coach leather seat config. which would allow for about 160+ pax, or even maybe exercise some options for A321s in an all coach confic, that would allow 200 pax i believe, which would allow more pax to have window or isle seats when the shuttle isnt as full and allow US Airways to take some of Deltas shuttle Pax and gain back some market share!

In any event the Shuttle should be fully integrated to allow a more convenient operation with single brand identity.



User currently offlineERAU From Canada, joined May 1999, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 618 times:

I looked it up and in a high-density configuration the A321 can accomodate 220 pax. But after you take out tows for additional legroom for the highclass business travelers that gets reduced.

I would probably decide to reduce it to an even 200 so that I would only need four F/A per aircraft. Then I would do away with the beverage cart and serve passengers using a tray like SWA and MetroJet does which saves time and adds to customer appeal, because its a more personalized service.




User currently offlineERAU From Canada, joined May 1999, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 618 times:

sorry, one more thing I though of

I would have TVs in the back of every seat and I would have Satelite tv capability so pax could watch CNN and CNNfn and MSNBC, the weather channel etc. and any other nation wide channel.

Oh and foot rests like on singapore airlines economy class, oh and slimline seats to give passengers and additional one inch of leg room in addition to all the extra leg room the would be from the 20 seats I would take out. I could go on and on...


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 618 times:

Hi

They dont have 500 series. I wish they have some!!! Also L1011 said that on his credit card statment was writen Trumph Shuttle. Yes they bought them years ago. Reg. numbers are still NXXXTS

Rafal


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 618 times:

Didn't know that.........Maybe they should get some.

Here is another way that they could increase flights. Code Share with AMWRECK. Enter into an agreement with Amtrek to assign flight numbers to their trains and Train numbers to some of their flight. Both parties could increase the number of posted available flights that way. This isn't as far fetched as it sounds. Valujet a while ago supposedly had a couple of flights out of Atlanta(???) that where actually operated by Greyhound bus!!!!




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User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 618 times:

If any of USAirways' aircraft ever get transfered to shuttle, it should be the MD-80s! USAirways doesn't have enoguh of them to make sense of their keeping them in their fleet. I think they will be getting rind of them anyway when enough A320s and A319s come in. The MD-80 would be prefect for shuttle!

User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1649 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 618 times:
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I agree with flyf15 about the MD-80s for the shuttle. The shuttle fleet is just 12 strong, so that would be an ideal use for them. By the way, several years ago, I think it was in either ACAR or its predecessor, NAAN, that the USAir 767s and MD-80s were endangered species, that both would be gone within the year. How wrong they were.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 618 times:

USAirways has 31 MD80 planes (MD81 and MD82) and 12 B727 (USAir Shuttle) I think they will make a shuttle out of them (MD80s). Yeap, flyf15 I think you are wright!

Rafal


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4445 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 618 times:

I agree with flyf15 seeing the number of MD-80s. Instead of operating the A321 like some one suggested, I think they should buy more 757-200s or 300s and operate them on "Super Shuttles" like British Airways does. The 757-200 is a far superior aircraft to the A321-200.


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