Trickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
I'm not sure about passenger loads on this flight but I can see it being a convenient route for someone living in the LA area. Considering the horrible traffic conditions around the LA vicinity, flying would certainly be a pretty good alternative. Also, great for mileage runs.
Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
ONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2235 times:
O and D traffic is pretty much non-existent on this route. Even when I worked at SBA which is well over an hour from LAX (without traffic) we would have a O and D passenger once in a blue moon. UA has several daily flights to LAX for connections and AA has one RJ flight for aircraft positioning purposes. During rushhour the 405 can be a parking lot and just trying to get from the 405 or the 105 to airport can be a nightmare. (there is no proper connector because the damn NIMBYs fought it because they feared it would lead to more runways) Sometimes it costs only a little more to take the commuter flight (sometimes none) than to drive yourself up to LAX, but usually there is a premium to be paid. But with such small aircraft I'm sure they can find enough Orange County residents who will pay for it.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
I actually flew SNA-LAX several years ago on a Skywest EM-120, I think that the flight was a little more than 20 minutes. What happened was that we were supposed to fly from SNA-ATL nonstop, the flight was cancelled so DL just put us on the flight to LAX to connect to ATL. When I got home I priced a SNA-LAX r/t and it was only $36.
Gumah From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2140 times:
There are several reasons that this route really makes good sense:
My hubby is Premier Executive level with United Airlines. We live in North Orange County and he travels very frequently for business. SNA is the most convenient airport for him to fly out of because it's about a 20-25 minute drive vs. 45 to LAX.
Hubby frequently flys to Chicago direct from SNA. However, when he can't get a flight from SNA, he must fly out of LAX. He choses the SNA-LAX flight for two reasons:
1. Daily parking at LAX is like $20 or 30$ per day compared to SNA's rate
2. When flying SNA-LAX - United credits him 500 miles. Not bad, huh?
For him it's a great deal - money saved on parking and 500 miles - can't beat that!
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5170 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
YEs continental operates EFD-iah flights currently with ATRs. They used to fly HOU-IAH as well. As of Dec. 12th the COEx will be all jet so IAH-EFD will go to ERJ135s. I've flown the route many times-its a good alternative if u live on the south side of Houston-parking is free at Ellington and you get 500 OnePass miles. Most of the passengers on the flights are OnePass Elite members. Flying time is usually about 17-20minutes.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2003 times:
The flight is a positioning flight. American Eagle needs to get RJs to SNA to fly thier SNA-SFO flights. Since there is no other RJ service or RJ bases at neither SFO nor SNA, they need to fly LAX-SNA to get RJs to SNA to fly SFO-SNA, and they might as well make some money while doing that.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5800 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1959 times:
In the past there have been various short flights operated in California for connecting passengers. Besides those mentioned there was also a SFO-SJC on UAX. That flight is now replaced with a connecting bus.
JohnBoy, there was a DLConnection LAX-ONT. I used it a few times for connections. It used to be operated on a Metro.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
Zrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3164 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1934 times:
LAX-SNA flights are expensive. You can fly coast to coast for less. But no one ever flies this O and D. They connect. It usually costs the same to fly SNA-LAX-SFO-LAX-SNA as it does to fly SNA-SFO nonstop. Same true for other connections.
I love this short hop. Up and down realy fast. Great scenery. 500 United miles! What could be better?
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3471 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
Scheduled to provide a method of regular rotation of aircraft into/out of the SFO/SNA routes. Previously the SFO/SNA route was flown with two dedicated R90s each day. AA would shift the R90s out on early SNA-SJC legs and in on a late LAX-SFO leg. Similarly handled when S80 and 738 took over that flying. With AE flying the route it needed a way to route different aircraft onto and out of the two stations. The quick fix (minimizing effect on contract limitations) was the short LAX-SNA leg.
Cruising altitudes are 6-9,000' MSL (depending upon local arrival traffic).
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N628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
CCAIR (US Airways Express) used to fly CLT-HKY, about 45 miles in a straight line. Only business travelers connecting ever took it, although parking in HKY was free, so those living in the NC foothills could get a good deal. Full Y was something like $270 for a trip which never took longer than 10 minutes in the air.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
Air LA also used to fly LAX-SNA, from the Imperial terminal on the south side of LAX. They operated connecting services with Metros and then Jetstreams in co-operation with MGM Grand Air. Happy days...
Cschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
As was mentioned, UA flew OAK-SFO and SJC-SFO at one time. I recall their timetable actually having San Francisco as a destination from the San Francisco section, with the specific airport codes for OAK and SJC.