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New Operator Of The A319- Bmi British Midland!  
User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3071 times:

Hello,

I just read this on Pprune:

bmi has renegotiated with Airbus Industrie to change an existing order for an A320 to an A319 which will be delivered in 2004 as G-MIDN.

Wonder if more orders will follow, and where the a/c will be based....

Cheers!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Well done to BMI!

DC-10


User currently offlineDutchDeltaDude From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

Yet another reason not to fly BM!

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Interesting news.I heard they were having problems filling up the 321s-just rumours though.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

DutchDeltaDude,

For a start it's BD and not BM, and secondly can you expand on why you clearly don't like BD or the A319?


Hi Donder10,

I beleive the A319 has been selected to replace the Fokkers.

Cheers  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Surely replacing an A320 order for an A319 order is not a good thing for either BMI or Airbus?

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Interesting Englandair!What are the ERJs that were based at EMA doing now?Moving to MAN?
Cheers,Alex


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9564 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

I also don't understand DutchDeltaDude point,

I have flown BMI (BD) for the first time this year from AMS to LHR and I enjoyed the flight. The service was excellent with nice cabin crew, food was good and the space the A320 offers is great. On the way to LHR I flew with the A320, while on the way back to AMS I flew the B737-500 which gave me an opportunity to compare these two aircraft types. The cabin of the A320 is indeed more spacious than the 737 "Classics" at least.

Anyway, I had a good experience flying BMI, both on the A320 and the 735 (regardless of the space difference). Hope to fly them again in the (near) future.

Regards,

A388


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Hi Donder10,

I think that all of bmi's EMA services have now been moved to bmibaby, so they must have been transfered to another base- don't know where though!

Cheers!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

The A319 decision is to standardise the fleets as follows:

bmi (mainline): A319/A320/A321/A330

bmi regional: ERJ-135 / ERJ-145

bmi baby: 737-300 / 737-500


....... the A319 is seen as a replacement for the Fokker 100, 6 of which will operate with bmi (mainline) ex-LHR until the leases expire in 2004.


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Latest World Airline Fleets News confirms 319 deal,
also that BMI wants to cancel two Emb 135 and two Emb145 orders and is talking to Embraer about taking Emb-170s later on `instead'.
If this doesn't happen, the 135/145s will be parked up in storage as soon as delivered.



` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

BMI has always intrigued me. They seem like a classy carrier, and this seems like a strange move, only one 319.
I also wonder why none of the 321's have been repainted. I'd like to see it in the new scheme.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6953 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

BMI are trying hard to reorganize the carrier, and its tough when you are losing money, but cant drop routes because of the strategic value to their owners (LH and SK).

The A321's are clearly too big for the carriers routes, with the exception of DUB and BFS, and the A320's are too big for LBA, MME, CDG, BRU and MAD.

Personally, I'm surprised that they didn't go for the A318's

The Embraer fleet has no home either, since EMA is now a 737 operation. This leaves them flying Jets into markets that really don't need the additional cost.

They also have major issues with the A330's - mainly that they cant get them into Heathrow, with the MAN routes not making money, and one aircraft fully mothballed.

But LH and SK are willing to take the financial hit for Strategy...



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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7329 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2589 times:
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BestWestern, which mothballed A330 are you talking about - the one in Toulouse? G-WWBD has been operating this weekend whilst G-WWBM went off to Zurich.

Anyway, we are 6 months into the 3 year "expected loss making period" for the transatlantic routes. I guess any new routes from LHR will also have an "expected loss making period" so we can look forward to similar comments to the one posted above then I suppose.

David


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