Pressclub From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 775 posts, RR: 4 Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4092 times:
It looks like there is a cold war going on between SN Brussels Airlines and Virgin Express.
In their press release from today, an anouncement of the winter schedule, Virgin thanks all the customers who have choosen VEX in the past for their flights to London Heathrow.
Virgin appologizes that they can't offer anymore flights to London Heathrow due to the SN Brussels/BA deal and also appologizes.... that the passengers have to pay higher fares now that Virgin can't sell LHR anymore... So they accuse indirect SN Brussels of asking high fares for LHR flights...
Spitfire From France, joined Feb 2001, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3944 times:
At last one of the big mistakes of Paul Reutlinger is gone...too late for Sabena unfortunately !! VEX cabin crew and service never got the requested standard for Sabena's business pax...Tons of complains!!
Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3940 times:
One of the biggest mistakes VEX made was to tie itself up with Sabena....how can you be a 'low-cost' carrier (VEX fare weren't that cheap anyway), whilst also offering to interline/codeshare/offer a separate business class cabin?! It's crazy....
The second biggest mistake was establishing a base in Belgium, where labour costs are very high, and laws inflexible...I'm not saying the laws are 'bad', but they certainly are a disadvantage to a low-cost carrier, which VEX never really was.
SN Brussels Airlines uses Avro-aircraft, which are smaller than the Virgin Express-Boeing. We would like to apologise for any discomfort you might experience by travelling in this smaller aircraft. But do remember that by booking Virgin Express you are sure to have paid the best available fare.
AirDD From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
Seems like most Belgians would like VEX to go away,... but if it was to go away foreign based low cost carriers will quickly take over the flights from/to Brussels. Their operating cost (free from Belgian Labor laws) will be substantially lower than SNBA ...
Luchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3720 times:
Everybody likes Vex' good (?) prizes to lots of European destinations, we just want them to compete on a less agressive way. Making false allegations isn't correct, right? If you look my previous message in this topic you will see why.
SN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3619 times:
About... SN Brussels Airlines uses Avro-aircraft, which are smaller than the Virgin Express-Boeing. We would like to apologise for any discomfort you might experience by travelling in this smaller aircraft.
I have the feeling that most customers are going to believe what VEX is saying here. It's a very simple 'rule' for most passengers : a bigger plane on the outside must be a better, more comfortable plane and more spacious on the inside.
Flying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2433 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3585 times:
Moreover, VEX 737's are looking very cramped and old inside right now...
They souldn't boast too much about flying those airplanes. It's more a bus than an pax airplane.
The AVRO is not the best airplane from a pax point of view, I conceed (noise level inside, smaller bins, increased flight times,...) but it's more comfortable than a VEX 737 once you're seated.
Aamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1068 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
I quite like the Avros, i dont like the 737s as much.
So that argument would never win me over.
With regards to the paint comment, its time for VEX to repaint its entire fleet, what we want is something new, something stylish, something....
Groholsky From Belgium, joined May 2001, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3547 times:
you better stop your "gamineries". You started very well this topic but now it is turning ridiculous...(referring to "those 2 need a paintjob") Indeed your company has a beautiful(???) new paintscheme but if 30% of the pilot's salary is needed for that...Then shame on your company !!!
So keep your comments objective, and congrats for your site !!!
A330DAT From Belgium, joined Nov 2001, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3529 times:
SN-A330 - I have the feeling that most customers are going to believe what VEX is saying here. It's a very simple 'rule' for most passengers : a bigger
plane on the outside must be a better, more comfortable plane and more spacious on the inside.
I'm afraid you're right about that one SN-A330. Trying to fool the customers backfires sooner or later.
Sabena 690 - Hello Frederic, you're right, the new VEX colors are adapted ex-Virgin Blue colors. The aircraft returned from V Blue in those colors and it was decided to apply the same to the rest of the fleet (eventually) All fonts (letter types) and signs have also been adapted, being the same font and style as Virgin blue and Virgin Atlantic.
Luchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3508 times:
I just wanted to make a statement here: if you have to write down on your official website that some flights are with SN Brussels Airlines and that they are apologising for the dicomfort you might experience by travelling in this smaller aircraft. Vex should also consider that a plane where the red paint has practically disappeared isn't good advertising as well. Hope this explains the implementation of those 2 pics.