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Unitd Launching Daily Non-stop DEN-HNL Service  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Starting February 14, United will begin daily year-round non-stop service from Denver (DEN) to Honolulu (HNL).

Monday through Friday, the flights will operate on a Boeing 767-300ER with 244 seats in the 2-class configuration.

The Saturday and Sunday flights which is currently running will continue to operate on the 348 seat 2-class 777-200s.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E33%257E926637%257E,00.html

Regards


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineUALrampORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

I think its a good thing. They should be using the 3 class First Suites though.

UALrampORD


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Hey BA,

This is really great news as for UA were daily nonstop from DEN-HNL flight as for now And opreate on the B777 by Sat/Sun only with more than of 348 passengers goes on the aircraft. So I really very wonderful to hear as from United were doing very outstanding with the routes. So do you even need get more new nonstop anytime soon. Well, later!!

Regards,

Scott W.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

I've heard there will be some Hawaii expansion from DEN in the coming year.

I think you will see OGG happen. Most probably seasonal, but possibly even year-round. Maybe on weekends it would be year-round, and during the winter season it will be daily. Who knows.

Saturday seasonal KOA service is coming up soon.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/021015/152437_1.html


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User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

I agree... why not the three-class 767?


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

Trickijedi,

United operates 2-class 767s and 777s to Hawaii simply because Hawaii is an extremely low-yielding market and the only way to make money, is by having lots of capacity.

Most passengers who fly to Hawaii are doing it for leisure purposes and not business purposes which means there is significantly less demand for the premium classes (First and Business).

Infact, what may possibly even be more profitable is a single-class 767. All Economy. I think a few of the major carriers such as CO, DL, and UA were considering it in the past.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7383 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

This should also take some pressure off LAX and SFO departures to HNL freeing up more seats to LAX/SFO from DEN.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Here is the official press release from United:

http://www.united.com/press/detail/0,1442,50236,00.html

The flights are already in the schedules and bookings are being taken.

I would not be surprised to see some of the weekday flights or possibly all of them upgraded to a 777-200.

It's about time DEN-HNL operates as a daily service.

Supposidly Hawaiian has been interested in serving DEN from HNL, but with United launching daily service, I think this will discourage them.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

actually it's to compete w/ Frontier's new A318megaER flight from Denver to Honolulu  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

There's another article in the Denver Post today about the new Hawaii service:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E33%257E927507,00.html?search=filter

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

I wouldn't think a 767-300 or 777 could take off with a full load of passengers and fuel from Maui's short 7,000 foot runway, NON-STOP to Denver, could it? I know OGG-LAX/SFO flights with these aircraft, are served on a regular basis. Do you think a NON-STOP DEN is pushing the limits from that runway? Just curious.

User currently offlineAA7771stClass From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 296 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

John--
AA/TWA sends a 763 daily out of OGG both to DFW and STL nonstop. I think the planes have plenty of legs to make the trip to DEN out of 7000' feet.


User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 652 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

"Supposidly Hawaiian has been interested in serving DEN from HNL, but with United launching daily service, I think this will discourage them."

Even with these flights, I wouldn't be surprised if HA decides to go ahead and start their own DEN-HNL flights either on their own with the 763ER's or with a codeshare partner like CO or one of the other partner airlines. It is a well known fact that HA is looking to expand their route network further with the new 767's. I think the 767's in the new HA colors would look beautiful in DEN  Smile


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

HA_DC9,

That is true. However, I don't think the market warrants 2 daily flights on 767s.

And United has a huge advantage over Hawaiian on the DEN-HNL market. For one, lots of loyal United Frequent Flyers in Denver, and of course PLENTY of connection opportunities to the rest of the United States.

I have heard that United wants to expand Hawaiian service from Denver.

A couple months ago they announced seasonal Saturday service to Kona (KOA), and now they announced daily service to Honolulu. I'm guessing OGG will be next, and it would be a logical choice.

Infact, I could see OGG operating daily for at least the winter season, and weekend service the rest of the year. Or possibly daily year-round service if they really want to compete with American Airlines from STL and DFW.

While business travel is down, the leisure market is doing very well. Infact, even better than last year.

This is why Frontier is starting service to Cancun and Mazatlan and why United is expanding Hawaii service.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

Those 767 are not full of fuel, and the 777 isnt even close to full fuel load. The weight from fuel should not be a problem at all over in Maui to get off the runway.

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