ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3207 times:
This is really great news as for UA were daily nonstop from DEN-HNL flight as for now And opreate on the B777 by Sat/Sun only with more than of 348 passengers goes on the aircraft. So I really very wonderful to hear as from United were doing very outstanding with the routes. So do you even need get more new nonstop anytime soon. Well, later!!
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2894 times:
I wouldn't think a 767-300 or 777 could take off with a full load of passengers and fuel from Maui's short 7,000 foot runway, NON-STOP to Denver, could it? I know OGG-LAX/SFO flights with these aircraft, are served on a regular basis. Do you think a NON-STOP DEN is pushing the limits from that runway? Just curious.
HA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2887 times:
"Supposidly Hawaiian has been interested in serving DEN from HNL, but with United launching daily service, I think this will discourage them."
Even with these flights, I wouldn't be surprised if HA decides to go ahead and start their own DEN-HNL flights either on their own with the 763ER's or with a codeshare partner like CO or one of the other partner airlines. It is a well known fact that HA is looking to expand their route network further with the new 767's. I think the 767's in the new HA colors would look beautiful in DEN
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2878 times:
That is true. However, I don't think the market warrants 2 daily flights on 767s.
And United has a huge advantage over Hawaiian on the DEN-HNL market. For one, lots of loyal United Frequent Flyers in Denver, and of course PLENTY of connection opportunities to the rest of the United States.
I have heard that United wants to expand Hawaiian service from Denver.
A couple months ago they announced seasonal Saturday service to Kona (KOA), and now they announced daily service to Honolulu. I'm guessing OGG will be next, and it would be a logical choice.
Infact, I could see OGG operating daily for at least the winter season, and weekend service the rest of the year. Or possibly daily year-round service if they really want to compete with American Airlines from STL and DFW.
While business travel is down, the leisure market is doing very well. Infact, even better than last year.
This is why Frontier is starting service to Cancun and Mazatlan and why United is expanding Hawaii service.
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