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Avianca Ending Service To Los Angeles  
User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Avianca will end service BOG-MEX-LAX service. The last flight will be on Octber 31. Avicanca will continue to operate BOG-MEX.

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User currently offlineTriley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

What a shame. I will miss seeing their 767 parked at Terminal 2 late at night. Any word why this flight is being discontinued? Are there any other airlines serving LAX with a link to Colombia?

User currently onlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3050 times:


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It is indeed a shame as Avianca has been flying to LAX for about 20 years now using pretty much every single type of aircraft in its inventory as shown in the above pics. One of the reasons for the withdrawal out of the California market probably has to do with the fact that they don't have (and never had) 5th freedom rights on the LAX-MEX segment. On a side note, a great number of Colombian ex-pats in California decides not to travel back to their country due to the instability and the hazard that travel to Colombia represents.

This is just one more step taken to make Avianca a leaner machine by cutting off unprofitable routes and concentrating on being a profitable entity after many years of extreme losses.

 Sad LatinPlane


User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1392 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

It is a shame they never got 5th freedom rights from the Mexican government. My question is, why did they do a stop in Mexico? They have a/c for a nonstop service BOG-LAX.

I remember TA also cancelled their flight SJO-MEX-LAX though they did have 5th freedom rights. Why?

PZ



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6214 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

It sure is a shame to see Avianca shrink , but its a step they need to take if they want to stop loosing money . They need to cut all of their prestige routes and just concentrate on their money makers if they want to survive .
Chepos



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User currently offlineAm777 From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Well in May I flew the BOG - MEX, AND ONLY 10 pax continue to LA so I guess that it was a big money looser.

User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 589 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
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Does anyone know what type they will be using into MEX?


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User currently onlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Pzurita1:

Many airlines from South America and Central America that have flown to LAX throughout the years have done it via MEX without 5th freedom rights, Avianca was just the last one to do it. These days, it is just not viable to fly a tag along segment if it does not include proper 5th freedom rights.

Here is a list of the airlines that I've know that have flown the segment.

Aerolineas Argentinas: EZE-LIM-MEX-LAX
Ecuatoriana: Quito-Guayaquil-MEX-LAX
APSA: LIM-MEX-LAX and LIM-ACA-LAX (70s route)
AeroPeru: LIM-MEX-LAX
Lan Chile: SCL-MEX-LAX (now SCL-LIM-LAX with 5th freedom)
LACSA: SJO-MEX-LAX and SJO-ACA-LAX (late 80s route)
Avianca: BOG-MEX-LAX


In regards to Avianca, there is a large population of Colombians living in California, but like I've stated earlier many decide not to visit Colombia as often when compared to other Latin Americans in the area. Avianca also charged a very expensive fare for the ability to fly direct with them (approximately $1000.00 USD) when AA or UAL charged significantly less by flying thru their MIA hubs.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineCopa737 From Panama, joined Jan 2002, 331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Oh, very sad..

Well, now colombians can fly with Copa, BOG-PTY-LAX cheaper maybe.

Or use any of the Colombian airlines that will enter to Panama by dec02.

Cheers,

Copa737



Panamá Crece y Copa Airlines crece con Panamá!
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6214 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Hos is Copa doing on their PTY-LAX route?
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineCopa737 From Panama, joined Jan 2002, 331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Its not daily, but its seems to work very good. They fill the flight with people that make their stop in the Hub of the Americas.

Copa737



Panamá Crece y Copa Airlines crece con Panamá!
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