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Whoa! UAL Delivery New A320 Today!  
User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

I found flight tracker. UAL delivery new A320 today from France stopover in Iceland to Indianapolis. I thought UAL could not afford due near bankruptcy.

Here it is:

Airline United
Flight Number 9161
Departure City (Airport) Reykjavik, Iceland (BIKF)
Departure Time
Arrival City (Airport) Indianapolis, IN (IND)
Arrival Time 10/18/2002 02:49 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Airbus A320
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived


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User currently offlineUALrampORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

So UAL can buy new aircraft, but it cant call back layed off employees?


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11200 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Uhhh...this isn't anything amazing. United has gotten several A320s this past year and 1 or 2 new 777s.

Just because an airline is near bankruptcy it doesn't mean they can't afford new aircraft. It's not like they only have $100 in there pockets. That's now how corporations work.


UA ordered these new aircraft before 9/11. They were either fully pre-paid, or they were 1/3 payed, then another 1/3 to have the aircraft painted, then the remaining 1/3 upon delivery.


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

My guess is that this was bought and paid for waaay before the economy began to tank. Airbus is only now delivering it.

- Neil Harrison

User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3727 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
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If UAL have bought it (it may be owned by a bank) it is an asset and has value to the company

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9498 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

Well, at least United has moved towards getting a new aircraft.

User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1342 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1675 times:
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Yeah--Anset got a new Airbus the day before they shut down!!! for good.

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

It's quite easy, actually. Once a contract is signed there is usually a clause stating a penalty for cancelling it.
As you get closer to fullfillment of the contract (i.e. delivery date in this case) the penalty usually increases. At some point, the penalty becomes equal to or greater than the value of the contract (i.e. aircraft) itself.
So it is quite possible that cancelling the order would have cost them more than taking delivery, and now that they have the aircraft they can also use it to replace another aircraft in their fleet that is more expensive to operate thus lowering their operating cost overall which means a cashflow improvement.

I wish I were flying
User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1427 times:


If I had seen this post earlier, I might have gone to KEF along with the camera. Oh, well - you can't get everything.

What is the registration by the way?

Reykjavik Aviation Photography - Just bring the aircraft to us and we'll photograph them! :-)
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