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Why Does KE Fly LAX-NRT?  
User currently offlineSpark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

Does anyone know why Korean Airlines flies LAX-NRT, instead of LAX-ICN? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

They make a lot of money LAX-NRT, so they fly it. Their first US route was SEL-NRT-HNL-LAX, and they have kept it (without HNL). Of course, they also fly LAX-ICN nonstop too.

Many other airlines like SQ, Thai, VARIG also fly this route.


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

I think for peak seasons, KE has 4 to 5 flights daily all being non-stop ICN-LAX using a mix of B777s and B744s. However, KE001 is the one that goes ICN-NRT-LAX. They have fifth freedom rights on this route that's why they are utilizing it. There are lots of passengers flying ICN-NRT and NRT-LAX they can carry ex-NRT passengers, so why not??

User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

Ahhh Ryu2 beat me to it.... They do make a lot of money flying via NRT.

User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2800 times:

It's because it's a huge market. I wouldn't be surprised to see BA flying this route! Well, you know what I mean...

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Heck, even Air India has dormant fifth freedom rights for this route and is seriously considering a launch of service next winter. If the market can bear KE and KE can bear the market, then the more competition the better.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8195 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2737 times:

Air-India should do it, they don't serve California do they? That'd be cool. Bombay to LA must be half way round the world, Bombay to Tokyo must be 8 hours, and another 12 across the Pacific? It's like London to Sydney or New York to Singapore.


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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Air India don't serve California, but DEL- or BOM-NRT-LAX could be an attractive routing if they did.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Air India currently code-shares with SIA's SIN-TPE-LAX and MAS' KUL-TPE-LAX.

Malaysia pulled out NRT-LAX earlier this year.


User currently offlineKdonohue From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2560 times:

They fly that route because of the reasons posted above, and because on their way to Korea, they fly directly over Tokyo.

K.



User currently offlineSpark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2549 times:

I didn't realize that KE also flies a non-stop to ICN. Obviously getting a part of the California to Japan market is huge.
As far as Air India flying LAX-NRT route, that makes sense, but I think that SFO-NRT-India would be huge! There is a huge Indian population in the South Bay (SJC may make more sense), and currently they have two choices to get to India. They either fly east through New York and/or London, or fly west through Singapore. Either way, a direct flight to India from California is sorely needed.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2547 times:

As far as Air India flying LAX-NRT route, that makes sense, but I think that SFO-NRT-India would be huge!

AI's fifth freedom rights are for LAX-NRT and SEL-SFO. There had been plans to launch DEL-SEL-SFO flights back in the mid-90s, but the Asian economy tanked and so did the plans.


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2533 times:

BOM-LAX could be done on a polar routing, it's 7567 nm according to Great Circle Mapper. Also BOM-SFO is 7305 nm, also with a polar routing.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 2534 times:

BOM-LAX could be done on a polar routing

No it couldn't as it involves overflight of Pakistan airspace which is restricted from Indian carriers right now.


User currently offlineAirnondo From Moldova, joined May 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Another big reason they fly this is its the only SkyTeam route from the western US to Tokyo. I believe Delta codeshares on it, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Yes DL codeshares to NRT as flight 7120 LAX-NRT and 7121 NRT-LAX which very unfortunately replaces the old DL78/79  Sad

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