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Dodgey Landings/take Offs  
User currently offlineBHXviscount From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2137 times:

Looking at the pic of that 737-800 taking off in sidewind reminded me of seeing a viscount trying to land at BHX in a strong headwind in the early eighties, its rear wheels touched down but the nose hung in the air for around 400m as it hurtled down the runway and then suddenly it bounced down and then up and down.... like a rubber ball before finally coming to rest(WOULD not like to have been on that flight) 9-p
There must be many a story to tell from some of you out there.....
By the way just started my first "new topic post"


No officer, its NOT a surface to air missile its a camera..for taking photographs.
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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Go to LHR obs deck on a very windy day and watch 9left arrivals in a heavy crosswind. Some of them are jaw dropping. Saw a piccy a while back of a Qatar A300 catching a major gust on SHORT finals (like REAL short) for 9L and its on here somewhere. Seems to affect the heavies more than the minibusses and 73's. Dunno why.

CHRIS



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

Heathrow's 27R is notorious for catching landing aircraft off-guard in crosswind conditions, largely because of the proximity of the buildings. That how that BA 747 ended up on the grass a couple of years back.

User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

ORD's 27L and 27R are fun to watch on a windy day as well. You really see those planes wobble left to right.

Congratulations on your first thread starter post!  Big grin



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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2052 times:


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pretty scary stuff! i wish i would have seen that, i saw an md-11 at DFW do a nice little turn like that, i have it on tape, i swore it was close to crashing. i was very very scared. and that was the first and last time i have been scared spotting



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User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 days ago) and read 1995 times:

Wow! That's a scary picture!


Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineDanialanwar From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Wasn't it an MD11 of Fedex in Newark or China Airlines in Taipei that hit the runway so hard that the plane jumped back up and overturned? That's dodgey a bit too much.


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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Anyone have more on the BA B747 that ended up in grass mentioned earlier?

Thanks!



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User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 770 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

The way to land in an X-wind is to bank into the wind, and stay aligned with the runway with opposite rudder. I don't see anything wrong with the Qatari photo unless he wasn't aligned with the runway.. can't really tell from the shot. In a strong wind, you only take out the bank when landing is imminent.

-Sean


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41x From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4212 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Sean-SAN- thats more so true for small GA aircraft... for a large jet like that with engines on the wings, you basically fly it in with crab angle and kick the rudder to align it with the runway at the last moment- the momentum of the plane makes it keep tracking down the centerline. You could do it the GA way, but regardless the bank angle in that photo is much more than youd ever have, even in light GA birds.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6921 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Well, he's "slipping" it... left bank with right rudder...
Not knowing what went on in the cockpit... i'd say it was a good call.

Pilots here do it, as strong crosswinds don't exist here, when they get one, they "slip" it onto the centerline if landing is still possible... I've heard Low hours pilots tend to turn into the wind and end up crabbing too much upon touchdown, risking running off the runway side edge, and then a huge rudder correction. Uncomfortable for the pax, adds wear and tear to the plane that way too...

I'm talking rubbish anyway.

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4212 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

I personally think he just over shot and got blown off by the crosswind and is banking back to get back tracking down the runway. Likie I said- you dont slip in a crosswind on large jets.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

The Ba b747 was at LHR on the 12/12/00 for hte report check out http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/bulletin/may02/gbdxp.htm



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