BHXviscount From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 166 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2690 times:
Looking at the pic of that 737-800 taking off in sidewind reminded me of seeing a viscount trying to land at BHX in a strong headwind in the early eighties, its rear wheels touched down but the nose hung in the air for around 400m as it hurtled down the runway and then suddenly it bounced down and then up and down.... like a rubber ball before finally coming to rest(WOULD not like to have been on that flight) 9-p
There must be many a story to tell from some of you out there.....
By the way just started my first "new topic post"
No officer, its NOT a surface to air missile its a camera..for taking photographs.
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2683 times:
Go to LHR obs deck on a very windy day and watch 9left arrivals in a heavy crosswind. Some of them are jaw dropping. Saw a piccy a while back of a Qatar A300 catching a major gust on SHORT finals (like REAL short) for 9L and its on here somewhere. Seems to affect the heavies more than the minibusses and 73's. Dunno why.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
Heathrow's 27R is notorious for catching landing aircraft off-guard in crosswind conditions, largely because of the proximity of the buildings. That how that BA 747 ended up on the grass a couple of years back.
pretty scary stuff! i wish i would have seen that, i saw an md-11 at DFW do a nice little turn like that, i have it on tape, i swore it was close to crashing. i was very very scared. and that was the first and last time i have been scared spotting
Sean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
The way to land in an X-wind is to bank into the wind, and stay aligned with the runway with opposite rudder. I don't see anything wrong with the Qatari photo unless he wasn't aligned with the runway.. can't really tell from the shot. In a strong wind, you only take out the bank when landing is imminent.
XFSUgimpLB41x From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4300 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2423 times:
Sean-SAN- thats more so true for small GA aircraft... for a large jet like that with engines on the wings, you basically fly it in with crab angle and kick the rudder to align it with the runway at the last moment- the momentum of the plane makes it keep tracking down the centerline. You could do it the GA way, but regardless the bank angle in that photo is much more than youd ever have, even in light GA birds.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7521 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2381 times:
Well, he's "slipping" it... left bank with right rudder...
Not knowing what went on in the cockpit... i'd say it was a good call.
Pilots here do it, as strong crosswinds don't exist here, when they get one, they "slip" it onto the centerline if landing is still possible... I've heard Low hours pilots tend to turn into the wind and end up crabbing too much upon touchdown, risking running off the runway side edge, and then a huge rudder correction. Uncomfortable for the pax, adds wear and tear to the plane that way too...
I'm talking rubbish anyway.
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !