Rickb From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9 Posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2660 times:
Just looking at booking a couple of weeks vacation in Orlando - flights we have been offered (reasonably cheaply) are with Airtours on their A332's (unlike a year ago where we got a Skyservice A333) - price to upgrade to premium economy is £199 each. Anyone have a web link to details of the seating plan etc.?
Rickb From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
Rootgirl - thanks for that - I know last year/ easrlier this year, the C-FBUS was on lease to Airtours (we booked through Airtours ) - we flew on it MAN > SFB and it was very comfortable for an economy flight. Ironically, this time around, the flight is around £100 more expensive than last year. No chance of Skyservice leasing the aircraft to Airtours again this year then?
Crosswind - thanks for the seating plan - not sure it looks that much better than economy on Skyservices A330 (okay 7 abreast instead of 8). Any idea what the seat pitch is on Airtours premium?
Just trying to decide if its worth spending £400 each on a premium economy flight on Airtours - or if its better going with BA or Virgin?
Rootsgirl From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 530 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
Rick, go on Virgin. What is the price difference? I flew on Airtours from YYZ-LGW and as much as I know what charter is all about ( I work for one ) I was appauled at the tight seating and the fact that they charge for everything, including soft drinks, juice etc. Because I work for a charter, I tolerate and understand, but I found the flights I was on to be utterly unbearable.
On our inbound to YYZ, we booked Premiere Class, expecting the same service as SSV, who offers a choice of 4 entrees, complimentary bar throughout the flight, dessert trolley, wine and cheese trolley, liquers and snack.
We got the same meal on Airtours as the economy pax, and we were told " you only pay for the seat with the upgrade". I was disappointed to say the least.
I flew from LHR to YYZ last October, originating out of DUB on Aer Lingus and connecting on to B/A - I got the fare for 250. pounds, which I thought was excellent.
CF-BUS will not be going over to Airtours for the winter season. I am being selfish, because I am happy that we will have our 330 for the winter, it's been a long time since I have had the pleasure of flying on her to the sun spots.
Anyway, whatever your decison, have a safe holiday and enjoy the sunshine.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2622 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
Seat pitch is 35" - significantly more than most scheduled economy class seating accross the pond, and a hell of a lot better than the 29" pitch you get down the back!
I have just remembered where there is a picture of the Premium Cabin of a MyTravel A330-200 - sort of. While Air 2000, Britannia and Monarch each have different seat designs - MyTravel and JMC both use the same Premium seat, they are even furnished in the same colour leather! So the seating in the MyTravel A330 is identical to that depicted here: http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?1025841079:LRM
Kestrel From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2002, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2582 times:
MyTravel might not have the best reputation in the industry, and I could be accused of being biased but the Premiair Gold cabin on our A330-200's is definitely worth every penny - in my opinion far better value than booking with a scheduled carrier. There are 49 seats in the upgraded cabin and despite a 2-3-2 config, they are still very wide, comfortable with decent recline & adjustable headrests and upholstered in navy leather. The seat pitch is more than enough for even the tallest passenger, and all seats have PTV's which have a moving map,forward facing and downward facing camera which lets the passenger zoom in and out, five channels of entertainment programmes which include comedy, lifestyle, kids, teens and documentary programmes, four channels of movies (O/B & I/B movies are different, as are the entertainment channels) which are always updated every two months and are often onboard before they have been released in the UK as they are supplied from the US. There are also 10 audio channels available.
The service in Premiair Gold can provoked mixed reactions; the delivery of it and the attention from the two dedicated cabin crew is usually excellent. A pre-departure drink is offered, then after take off the crew will distribute headsets, offer a selection of magazines, give out bottles of mineral water to each pax and upgraded comfort packs (they contain all the usual:eye shades, socks, toothbrush and a selection of Molton & Brown minature cosmetics). All bar services are complimentary and separate wine service features decent quality wines from full size bottles, unlike the 1/4 plastic bottles in Economy. The crew usually offer several drinks services, but anyone that wants one during the flight will always be given one from the galley. A 'Saints and Sinners' service is offered which gives all pax a choice of snacks from crisps, chocolate bars, cookies, sweets to a selection of fruit (which is always the last to go!) Ice creams are given out during the movie. The meal service is a bit of a let down - it's true that the meal trays are the same as those served in Economy, but when you book your flight you can pre-select your hot meal from a choice of ten options. Table cloths & separate Salt + Pepper pots are given out, but since 9/11 the cutlery has reverted to plastic. Tea and Coffee is offered from full size non-plastic mugs and there is the option of speciality coffee with liquer & whipped cream. Hot towels are given out before the crew collect in the trays. Duty Free is standard as per Economy, as is the afternoon tea service which is done about 1 1/2 hours before arrival, and is the usual selection of sandwiches with scone, cream and jam.
At both UK & overseas airports there are separate check-in desks so no queuing, baggage allowance is increased to 30Kg per pax and is offloaded first on arrival, Check in time when leaving the UK is reduced to 60 mins pre departure and Premiair Gold passengers are given priority boarding and disembarkation.
All in all, if only for the extra legroom and free drinks I personally think it is well worth the supplement, and most passengers agree - invariably all the seats are sold. The contrast on the MYT A330 between the quiet tranquility of the Fwd cabin and the economy cabin is unbelievable! When you step through the dividing curtain, it feels like a different aircraft and the passengers are so much more difficult & uptight due to the cramped conditions they are squeezed into for up to 10 hours - at every bulkhead and set of doors there are always large numbers of people who would rather stand all flight than be wedged into a 3-3-3 config with 29" pitch!
Kestrel From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2002, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2569 times:
A couple of points I forgot to mention : when were you planning to take your flights to Orlando and are they ex-MAN? The reason being during some parts of the winter season, certain SFB flights are planned to operate on the DC10-10 (via YYR or YQX), and this aircraft is in an all - economy config. Especially if you are booking through Going Places who are well know throughout MYT Airways for their total incompetence and general lack of knowledge, it wouldn't be the first time a passenger has booked & paid for Premiair Gold when the flight was planned to operate on the DC10/767 from the outset, only to find out the bad news either a) at check-in, if Servisair are brave enough to tell them or (more usually) b) on boarding the DC10 and seeing 379 cattle class seats!
Finally, after reading the latest reports today on MyTravel's financial position, I very much hope we're still here to get the chance to operate your flight.
RickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
We where looking at flying around the 25th Jan but my dates are flexible at this time - I think we would rather change our dates than fly in economy. Any idea when the DC10 is going to be flying MAN > SFB ?
Thanks for the information - as long as the A332 is flying - it looks like we will go with Airtours. We are booking thorough TravelCity - they where a little confused last year as they said no premium economy (there was) and it was down to me to tell them it was an A333 !!!
Cheers for the information Kestrel and Crosswind - much appreciated guys.