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AirTran 717 Question: N988AT - N996AT  
User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Ok, Somebody help me out here. As Far as I know, Ship 760, 761, 762, and 763 were the 4 717-23S aircraft that were supposed to go to VuelaMex. These 4 aircraft were equipped with ovens. But these 4 were the only ones that Vuelamex was supposed to recieve. Now I recently viewed the interior of ship 764 and it had ovens, and the same identical interior that the Ex-Vuelamex ships had, but they are designated -2BD for AirTran. Can anyone explain why this aircraft had ovens when it was ordered and delivered by and to AirTran. I know AirTran didn't order ovens unless they are surprising us soon by announcing food in-flight  Yeah sure. Can anyone explain this?

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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 1774 times:

Does anyone have any explanations. If not, I will email Boeing's Communications manager at LGB. But I was hoping out of close to 10,000 users, somebody would know something,

User currently offlineSeiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 1759 times:

I thought you already asked this a few months ago.

On a related note.... just how much less will seat pitch be on the TWA B717s once AirTran receives them? AirTran is reconfiguring them from the 106-seat American Airlines configuration to hold a whopping 117 seats. I assume they are also taking out the ovens/extra galley equipment and rear cart storage from the aircraft....


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 1739 times:

Jason, I found the 117 seat configuration to be very comfortable. It was not that bad. You need to try their 717. Much more comfortable than the DC-9...Wait, Actually I take that back. The Coach Class Seats are harder than a concrete block...And I mean that. The DC9 seats are like a pillow compared to the 717. But the configuration is Ok. It doesn't cram you in, and it is alot better than Hawaiian's Configuration.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 1736 times:

Seiple: part of the deal(that I'm still wondering about why Boeing was so generous) included adding AirTran interiors to the aircraft, replacing the TW ones.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 1733 times:

Lowfareair, Could it be that AirTran is their leading 717 supporter, and launch customer and the fact that AirTran is basically keeping that line open right now? So Boeing didn't mind giving them a hot deal.

Just my guess, but I could be wrong


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months ago) and read 1724 times:

My reasoning is that the TW planes could be good for a future MA customer. If, hypothetically, an airline wanted to place a 30-50 aircraft order to receive quickly, Boeing could say "We'll get them to you as fast as you can train the pilots, we already have 22 ready and waitng". Airbus, OTOH, would say "We could get you 12 frames a year starting in 18 months. That could influence the decision majorly.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Nobody in my sources at FL said anything about replacing the ex-TW aircraft. As for why the ovens are still installed in the a/c, they're probably going to reconfigure them once all the DC-9s are retired late next year. By then, FL will have approx 73 717s, and still have orders and options on the line in LGB.


Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Elwood: Listen to the conference call, Q&A for 3Q02. First question by Jim Parker. They say that they are being reconfigured to FL specs.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

Jim Parker? Isn't he with WN?

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1552 times:

The analyst, not the CEO. I think he is with Raymond James, might be wrong.

User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Airtran has picked up planes that were built for Pembroke but there were no customers. The Vuelamex planes were also Pembroke planes so that should explain the oven situation. There were 3-4 Pembroke planes with no customers.

User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

And add to that the fact that Boeing has a stake in AirTran...

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