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User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

UK regulators has approved the alliance between bmi british midland and United Airlines. However, this action shows a proposal on increasing competition in London Heathrow.

The regulators said the antitrust exemption would only come into force when Anglo-American restrictions denying British Midland the right to fly between Heathrow, the world's busiest international airport, and the United States were removed.

Currently, only AA/UA and BA/VS allowed to fly Heathrow-US flight.

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User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

The other day it was announced that tourists to the UK had dropped to their lowest numbers in 20 years. Now this expected approval from the Office of Fair Trading. I am sure that with both of these announcements there will be enormous pressure on the UK to at last do something about Bermuda II.
The Office of Fair Trading stated very clearly that consumers would benefit from this alliance.So if the UK fails to act on an openskies, they can be called anti consumer and rightly so. I am sure there will be some kind of action on more access to LHR in the weeks ahead. Hopefully by years end.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1126 times:
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No they should allow the BA/AA alliance go ahead, plus scrapping bermuda 2 restrictions and finding a deal which both the UK and US find acceptable.




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User currently offlineRickb From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

747firstclass - in all fairness tourist numbers have dropped for a number of reasons and I would be very surprised if any of them had anything to do with Bermuda II.

1. Foot and Mouth outbreak
2. September 11th.
3. War on Terrorism

to name but a few.

However what I would like to know is how many other direct transatlantic routes have more than 4 competitors? Does Frankfurt have more than 4 airlines flying direct to New York??

Cheers in advance

RickB


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6490 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

RickB.

The question should be how many carriers fly from the U.S. to FRA. The answer would be any U.S. or German carrier that wants to. The same holds true to CDG,AMS,MAD,MUC, etc.

It does not hold true to LHR where only 4 carriers are allowed.

The following carriers fly to FRA from the U.S. ie Delta, Northwest, American, United, Continental, U.S. Airways, Lufthansa, Condor, Fedex, ATA, World.


User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

Yes, indeed there are more than 4 carriers that fly from FRA-USA.
I did not mean to imply that Bermuda II has cause the drop in tourism in the UK. However, faced with such a drop it should motivate the UK to do something to encourage tourism. An openskies with the US could help along those lines. It would bring lower air fares and encourage more people to travel etc. Over and over againt has showen to be extremely effective in promoting tourism with countires that the US has openskies agreement with.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

Actually, 7 carriers fly between the USA and LHR.....

User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 997 times:
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BA,AA,UA,VS,AI and KU fly between LHR and JFK. so that's 6 airlines on one route.




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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 949 times:

there's also NZ which flies LAX-LHR

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3429 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 930 times:

however can those airlines pick up passengers from LHR and fly them to the US? Here's another question, lets say ATA needed to fly a military charter to LHR, like they had no other choice would they be able to do it?

Also mentioned before about airlines serving the US-FRA market, technically World and ATA don't serve that market because they mainly fly the route for military charters or some other kind of charter. They don't have scheduled operations


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 905 times:
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however can those airlines pick up passengers from LHR and fly them to the US?

Air India and Kuwait Airways already do.





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