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SXM Heart Attack Approach?  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

Is it a requirement that all SXM flights land over Maho Beach, or do they ever land curving from the mountain side... similar to the famous Kai Tak Heart Attack approach?

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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Yea, I wondered that myself. Same thing at ST. Thomas, too. Seems they only approach over water, on one end.

User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

Other than a rather short runway for a 747...
at SXM we land East (coming from the sea) and takeoff West (towards the sea) is wind permits... If we have to takeoff East, it is an immediate turn to the RH side after takeoff to avoid the mountain...
xxx
I never landed West at SXM... cannot tell you what it would be like...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

I actually met a KL pilot at the Maho Beach Resort when I was spotting there. He said he has never heard of anything landing from the west. He said that perhaps GA aircraft do, but he hasnt heard of anything commercial landing from the west.


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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

I would hardly call it a Heart Attack approach, as long as you are coming in over Maho Beach. It's basically water, water, water until you see a strip of sand and then you're over the fence and onto the runway.

The take off is the Heart Attack part. There is a mountain to clear.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1110 times:

Heart attack - for whom? - passengers?...
xxx
There is an official list of "special airports" which require special briefing for pilots, because of the nature of terrain, obstacles, etc... SXM does not figure on that list of airports... before I went there first time, I remember I was just told "land East", and "takeoff West, if you can"...
xxx
Special airports are... as examples - Bogota, Cali, La Paz, Innsbruck, Lake Tahoe, Aspen, Guantanamo, Orange County... - HKG KaiTak was on that list...
xxx
Looks like "everything is heart attacks nowadays", come on, friends...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineMjsmigel From United States of America, joined Oct 2002, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1064 times:

I found this kind of amusing... from the current DoD FLIP chart supplement:

PRINCESS JULIANA INTL, NT St Maarten I TNCM CIV N18°02.46' W63°06.53'
[....]
REMARKS - Opr 1100-0100Z, OT 24 hr PN. TFC PAT - Rgt tfc Rwy 09. Left tfc Rwy 27. Ovft of populated areas blw 2000' proh. Ovft of beaches blw 500' proh.  Big grin


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

Ovft of beaches blw 500' proh.

Yeah right, the fence between the beach/road and the airport has been replaced more times than you can shake a stick at! Those 747s arent much higher than 300 ft. when they hit the beach area! Thats pretty funny though...on the beach they actually have warning signs about stones and sand being kicked up by a/c as they pass overhead. Big grin



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9720 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 926 times:

Only the commuter aircraft, such as the ATR42/72, Dash-8 and DHC-6 Twin Otter larrive from the mountain side (west side). When I flew from Guadeloupe to St. Martin, we came in from the West over Phillipsburg. I was flying with Air Guadeloupe on an ATR72. But larger aircraft don't arrive from the west. Don't know why exactly.

Regards,

A388


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 861 times:

I've seen a single engine prop land from the other way, but nothing bigger than that.

JC


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