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MIA Pushing For Lagos Flights  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32788 posts, RR: 72
Posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1296 times:

With the start of the first Nigerian-American Chamber of Commerce, based in Miami, MIA has extended it's efforts to bring non-stop service between Miami and Lagos, Nigeria, by both plane and cargo ships. Little details on how they are going to lure the service, but they have reportedly began talks to try to make it happen. A non-stop Miami-Lagos service would have a flying time of only six hours. Right now, it takes as much as 14 hours to travel between the United States and Lagos via Europe. A Miami-Lagos service would be the quickest route between the United States and Africa, and will allow for connections from all over the US.


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User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Isn't Lagos airport deemed by the State Department as unsafe for Americans?

User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1251 times:


I very much doubt the flying time of only 6 hours, as the distance is 5630 mi on great circle. This is roughly the distance of MIA-SVO.
So no way this can be done on a regular subsonic passenger jet in 6 hours.



User currently offlineCo 757-300 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

what airline could we see doing this?

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

that would an interesting route. I wonder how many nigerians actually live in florida, or even the united states, i have a feeling this will be short lived. but it would be cool to see. and im questioning the 6 hours thing. it takes a little over 6 hours from jfk-lhr.


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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1076 times:

Nigeria Airways already flies from JFK to Lagos 2x per week. The flight is around 8 hours, so Miami would appear to be shorter. I don't know if it is only 6 hours though.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

There is no way Miami to Lagos will take 6 hours. That's just not possible on any modern airliner other than the Concorde. Even a Concorde will not be able to do Miami to Lagos as 5630 miles is above its range.

So no airliner can do the trip in 6 hours.

Lagos to Miami would encounter headwinds and would take even longer.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1057 times:

Flyguy1,

JFK to Lagos (LOS) is shorter than MIA to Lagos (LOS). It's only 5,250 miles while MIA-LOS is 5,630 miles.

Just for comparison, LAX-LHR is 5455 miles taking the Great Circle route. That's shorter than MIA-LOS, and LAX-LHR takes 10 to 11 hours depending on the winds and the exact route taken. Airlines often don't take the Great Circle routes since our skies are congested these days. So flights often are longer than what you would find out by using the Great Circle route.

Looking at a flat map to compare the distance will be decieving. You have to look at the globe, and use a string to measure the shortest distance which is the Great Circle route.

One would think JFK-LOS is longer than MIA-LOS, but it is not.

Looks can be decieving.

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User currently offline767er From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

Why would anyone in their right mind want to go to Lagos. I hear it is a complete s**t hole.




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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32788 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

The six hour time came from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, so I guess they were wrong. None the less, MIA is pushing for Lagos flights. The United States has about 300,000 Nigerians, of which only about 12,000 live in Miami. Most live in New York City and the Northeast. However, Miami's African population is one of the largest in the United States, made up mainly of South Africans and Senagalis.

I am not sure if this is how the route would work, but looking at a map I would think an MIA-LOS service would be quickest if the flight went South, and then turned over Fortazela, Brazil over and then over the Atlantic.

Locally, MIA-LOS service would most benefit Miami's huge African business community. Miami's geographic location makes it a big centre for African business. I think MIA-DKR would work better, though. There is definitley a sizeable market for that.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 999 times:

The Great Circle route is always the shortest route possible.

Take a look:

JFK-LOS - 5250 mi


MIA-LOS - 5630 mi


Distance wise, the Great Circle route is shortest. It's not possible to have a shorter route than the Great Circle route.

Therefore, JFK-LOS is shorter than MIA-LOS by 380 miles if the Great Circle route is used.

Like I said earlier, looks can be decieving. Never judge a book by it's cover.

Regards



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