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Via Aerobridge For The Canadair CRJ Passengers?  
User currently offlineGotAirbus From Singapore, joined May 2001, 851 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Hi all,

Actually, I have 2 questions for people who work with/rode on any regional jet, especially the Canadair RJs (every other RJ's welcome too).

[1] After a flight to Colorado Springs (minor airport);flight back to Phoenix (major airport), I've noticed that unlike some airports...:

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...the passengers board/disembark the Canadair CRJ200 via an aerobridge.
(Of course, looking at the picture above shows the aerobridge cannot go any further towards the CRJ's entrance; it would hit and damage the stair. While boarding, I saw a metal bridge linking the gap left between the aerobridge and the entrance.)


Whilst other airports...:
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...the built-in door/stairs are used.

My question [1(a)] is: Which/when do airports have passengers step on the tarmac, and making the passengers board from the stairs? On both my encounters, KCOS and KPHX airports use the "aerobridge+metal bridge combi" for regional jets.

[1(b)] If question 1(a)'s answer is "no airports are doing 'stair-boarding' anymore", then does European airports do that?



[2] Looking at this picture and Author's Information of the new CRJ-700...
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...my second question is: Does the newer versions of the Canadair regional jets have to have the "aerobridge+metal bridge combi"?(look at the paragraph in small fonts above if you don't know what I mean).

[2(b)] The author discussed about the CRJ-700 being slanted and all and was wondering if Canadair saw the problem with the RJ-200 jets making airports use the "aerobridge+metal bridge combi". If yes, is it naturally slanted or does the pilot have to push a switch to lower the jet's nose?



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User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

I boarded the CRJ with the stairs at BHX a couple weeks ago, and i dont think they ever use the aerobridge.
I did notice that AMS uses the aerobridge for the CRJ, althought we came off by stairs (maybe due to a delayed flight).



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User currently offlineDiz From New Zealand, joined May 2001, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2812 times:

The problem with the CRJ is the protruding top step on the stairs. The metal "bridge" you describe is a very cheap and crude modification to allow the bridges to dock. Newer bridges (and older ones with retrofit) from FMC Jetway can be ordered with the CE floor, which has a hinged and retractable floor around the door (allowing it to safely rest around the step) and providing smooth transition without trip hazards.

The lowered nose attitude on the CRJ-700 is a combination of things - the new baggage compartments raise the floor, the length required more clearance for rotation and thus achieved by lifting around the main gear, finally.. they lowered the nose to avoid fitting F28 style door or loosing the stairs all together and having to fit an escape slide (because of the sill height).

-d


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4567 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

One of the newer jetbridges, DEW's "dewbridge", includes the features that Diz explained above. They are actually compatable all the way down to the Saab 340. Northwest is one of the biggest customers as they outfitted their Detroit hub with these to use on the Saabs and CRJs. Of course concourse C is being torn down -- but that is a whole new thread.

Locally, TOL has one of DEW's jetbridges which was purchased for Northwest. They have used it occassionally on the CRJ, but have yet to use it on a regular basis. Supposedly Northwest doesn't have anyone trained up in order to sign off the Mesaba ground crews here. LOL


User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2742 times:


Back when America West Express flew to MDW, we'd use the metal bridge connected to the jetway to board and deplane passengers on the CRJ's. However we had to stow the bridge under the jetway (it would swing down underneath) whenever we had an Airbus or 737 at the gate-which waseveryday since we only had 1 gate. That was a pain in the rear, so during the summer and fall months we'd just have passengers use the RJ's built-in stairways instead to avoid having to deal with the jetbridge.



User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Most airports I've flown through do the RJ boarding outside. Some airports, such as San Francisco use the jetways for some airlines (namely Horizon), same with Tucson and LA. It's interesting to note that Horizon uses a covered ramp so passengers don't have to climb stairs. It looks like one of those cargo loaders Airborn Express uses...

The RJ7 is slanted down due to emergency exit certification. They do this so there is no need for a slide.


User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

MSP uses jetbridges for all Northwest CRJs at the new regional terminal. I believe that they are the jetbridges FMC Jetway that don't leave a gap between the bridge and the plane (but not totally sure). Delta Airlines' CRJs (both from Skywest and COMAIR) don't use the regional terminal and don't use jetbridges.

pilottim747



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

PHL's terminal F is the US regional terminal at PHL and CRJ's dock there all the time via jetway...

Greg



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7528 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

As Ouboy79 said, NW has the special jetbridges in Concourse C in DTW for their CRJ's. However they are only occasionally used. Back when the new terminal opened winter, several CRJ's were damaged by the jetway operations. The Mesaba agents banged up about 4-5 Express I/Pinnacle CRJ's in the process. Now ops has to specially train jetway operators to use them for CRJ's. There aren't enough CRJ certified gate agents to go around so often times the stairs are used and passenger walk in off the ramp. Ops requires 2 CRJ-certified agents to operate the jetway. One actually works the controls while the other one acts as a spotter, making sure the jetbridge stays 3 inchs from the aircraft. The Saabs also use these jetbridges but the manueving isn't quite as difficult since in the case of the Saab the airstair folds up and slides inside fuselage. They just got to make sure they don't ding the propeller.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

I believe just about all modern jetways are compatible with CRJs.

In DEN, Horizon Air's CRJ700s use jetways and so do Air Wisconsin's (United Express) CRJs.

However, there are jetways specifically designed to handle small aircraft such as CRJs, and even turboprops like Saab 340s, EMB-120s, Dornier 328s, Dash 8s, etc.

Here is one developed by FMC Airport Systems (formerly known as Jetway Systems):


These will be getting very popular at a number of airports around the world.

Regards



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